1 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:14,439 [Music] 2 00:00:22,249 --> 00:00:18,510 this radios for the masses as Lima this 3 00:00:24,259 --> 00:00:22,259 move July 8 1947 the Army Air Force with 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:24,269 personnel that are flying this person 5 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:26,130 found and is now in the possession of 6 00:00:32,450 --> 00:00:28,800 the honor the game is rigged change 7 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:32,460 begins change in here I occasionally 8 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:35,280 think how quickly our differences 9 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:39,000 worldwide would vanish if we were facing 10 00:00:50,430 --> 00:00:47,210 [Applause] 11 00:00:53,190 --> 00:00:50,440 fade to black with your host to the 12 00:00:56,390 --> 00:00:53,200 church on the game-changer radio network 13 00:00:59,349 --> 00:00:56,400 kg RA the global radio alive 14 00:01:04,890 --> 00:00:59,359 [Music] 15 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:04,900 and begin your help to the year 1985 16 00:01:10,990 --> 00:01:08,450 [Music] 17 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:11,000 you nickname - thank you drag with Jimmy 18 00:01:20,919 --> 00:01:16,880 - only game-changing that was what up 19 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:20,929 what I would not pay the black misspoke 20 00:01:33,309 --> 00:01:26,960 radio for the masses today's Monday June 21 00:01:35,770 --> 00:01:33,319 26 176 days into the new year just 189 22 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:35,780 days left we are live from a bunker 23 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:37,310 somewhere in downtown Burbank California 24 00:01:40,209 --> 00:01:38,750 and I would like to welcome everybody 25 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:40,219 listening all around the world all 26 00:01:43,899 --> 00:01:42,380 across the United States is there until 27 00:01:45,669 --> 00:01:43,909 there to and fro back and forth up and 28 00:01:49,839 --> 00:01:45,679 down east and west north and south far 29 00:01:53,199 --> 00:01:49,849 and near this is fade to black for kjp 30 00:01:56,109 --> 00:01:53,209 are the game changer network and kgr a 31 00:01:58,479 --> 00:01:56,119 da planet I'm healed 32 00:02:01,089 --> 00:01:58,489 Jimmy Church what is cracking everybody 33 00:02:06,249 --> 00:02:01,099 it is indeed 34 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:06,259 Monday man oh man I feel like I haven't 35 00:02:15,819 --> 00:02:11,840 stopped oh wait I haven't right my 36 00:02:18,009 --> 00:02:15,829 goodness gracious what a schedule and 37 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:18,019 it's so great that's so fun it's so 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:21,200 amazing you know to string all of these 39 00:02:25,150 --> 00:02:23,450 shows together and you know coast to 40 00:02:26,650 --> 00:02:25,160 coast all weekend great show's over 41 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:26,660 there thank you everybody that hung out 42 00:02:31,930 --> 00:02:28,750 great tweets great great phone calls 43 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:31,940 last night I was a guest over on a Scott 44 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:34,489 Nomar show Scott was just amazing great 45 00:02:41,620 --> 00:02:37,940 great show actually supposed to be for 46 00:02:46,420 --> 00:02:41,630 an hour we went for two hours and out we 47 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:46,430 were her dropping bombs last night I've 48 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:47,840 talked about a lot of that stuff in a 49 00:02:51,309 --> 00:02:50,989 long time Jeff Scott Soto man I love you 50 00:02:53,710 --> 00:02:51,319 brother 51 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:53,720 I didn't mean anything no I didn't mean 52 00:02:59,050 --> 00:02:56,269 it anyway so Scott last night tonight 53 00:03:01,750 --> 00:02:59,060 kicking off another week here on fade to 54 00:03:03,849 --> 00:03:01,760 black and so this is our schedule for 55 00:03:05,890 --> 00:03:03,859 the week tonight J Widener is here the 56 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:05,900 senior director of content over at Gaea 57 00:03:11,949 --> 00:03:09,650 he's here to discuss the Nazca mummy we 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:11,959 did it for a little bit on Friday night 59 00:03:15,970 --> 00:03:13,730 over on coast to coast trying to clear 60 00:03:17,949 --> 00:03:15,980 clear some of the smoke out of the way 61 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:17,959 so we can see what's going on and look 62 00:03:21,740 --> 00:03:20,480 to the future and we will continue the 63 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:21,750 conversation again 64 00:03:27,650 --> 00:03:25,110 tonight tomorrow night Gregg Housh is 65 00:03:30,590 --> 00:03:27,660 here and he's going to join us to talk 66 00:03:33,950 --> 00:03:30,600 about that new anonymous video which 67 00:03:37,490 --> 00:03:33,960 claims that NASA is about to disclose 68 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:37,500 alien contact so we've got that tomorrow 69 00:03:41,690 --> 00:03:39,060 night and when it comes to anonymous 70 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:41,700 there's only one person to talk to and 71 00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:44,310 that is Gregg Housh okay 72 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:48,390 that that that's it that it not only who 73 00:03:53,449 --> 00:03:50,780 I consider I think most consider the 74 00:03:56,020 --> 00:03:53,459 spokesperson the face of anonymous he's 75 00:03:57,949 --> 00:03:56,030 been there since the very very beginning 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:03:57,959 went to prison 77 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:02,010 the Church of Scientology a crusade 78 00:04:10,420 --> 00:04:04,320 which was absolutely amazing I read a 79 00:04:14,090 --> 00:04:10,430 fact on that anonymous was sending black 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:14,100 faxes to the Church of Scientology and 81 00:04:21,020 --> 00:04:18,090 the black faxes was emptying their ink 82 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:21,030 in the fax machines running out of ink 83 00:04:26,090 --> 00:04:24,030 because they had to print black pages 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:26,100 out of the fax machine absolutely 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:28,610 ingenious anyway so that's great house 86 00:04:33,620 --> 00:04:30,930 okay so when it comes to anonymous we 87 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:33,630 need questions answered Gregg is our guy 88 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:37,620 and so appreciative of our relationship 89 00:04:45,860 --> 00:04:40,110 between himself and fade to black and 90 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:45,870 and what we have nurtured right so when 91 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:47,520 something like this comes up boom on the 92 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:50,280 phone picks up come on let's do it it's 93 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:52,620 just like that so tomorrow night Gregg 94 00:04:57,740 --> 00:04:54,720 Housh is here he's got a new talk show 95 00:04:59,630 --> 00:04:57,750 by the way that he is doing and blog and 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:04:59,640 you can check that out over at Gregg 97 00:05:04,460 --> 00:05:02,250 house.com his links are a Jimmy Church 98 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:04,470 radio calm and I wouldn't do that you 99 00:05:09,050 --> 00:05:06,510 can follow Gregg on Twitter of course 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:09,060 Gregg underscore house and you know just 101 00:05:14,719 --> 00:05:12,570 tell him yo fade or not say yo because 102 00:05:15,980 --> 00:05:14,729 he loves this show and he loves all of 103 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:15,990 you so tomorrow night we're going to do 104 00:05:21,219 --> 00:05:16,470 that 105 00:05:23,630 --> 00:05:21,229 and then Wednesday I gotta say this I 106 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:23,640 mentioned this last night over on Scott 107 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:26,850 show every single week every single day 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:29,310 every show was an event everything is 109 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:31,289 bigger than the day before bigger than 110 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:32,820 the week before bigger than the month 111 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:33,720 before 112 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:35,550 just getting bigger and better it's just 113 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:40,080 odd it's just what we do so to have J 114 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:41,460 Widener on the show tonight we're going 115 00:05:47,810 --> 00:05:43,380 to have chip Paul here in a few minutes 116 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:47,820 from new pharma and tomorrow night you 117 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:49,520 know Greg House and then Wednesday 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:53,610 Robert clot worthy the voice of ancient 119 00:05:59,330 --> 00:05:56,010 aliens is going to be here on fade to 120 00:06:01,100 --> 00:05:59,340 black no other show note that that's it 121 00:06:03,620 --> 00:06:01,110 that's it that view that's where that's 122 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:03,630 what we do can't even believe it Robert 123 00:06:09,410 --> 00:06:07,650 clot worthy man oh man you know I'm 124 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:09,420 going to have to make him drop a few 125 00:06:13,550 --> 00:06:12,000 lines on the show got to do it 126 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:13,560 alright Thursday night we're taking off 127 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:14,760 we're going to be on the road going up 128 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,240 to e city and so that's Thursday night 129 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:20,400 will be a best-of replay and then we'll 130 00:06:25,580 --> 00:06:22,410 be up it he said he ranch all weekend 131 00:06:31,220 --> 00:06:25,590 we'll be checking in and you know via 132 00:06:33,170 --> 00:06:31,230 Twitter and Instagram that's right the 133 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:33,180 breaking news we have finally broken 134 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:37,110 down yes we now have a fade to black 135 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:39,330 Instagram account you can follow us on 136 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:43,830 instagram at fade to black radio all 137 00:06:48,770 --> 00:06:47,070 right the account was just started so if 138 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:48,780 you want to be one of the first one of 139 00:06:52,430 --> 00:06:50,460 the first followers I don't even know 140 00:06:56,570 --> 00:06:52,440 how many we have we just launched this 141 00:07:00,670 --> 00:06:56,580 today and see what are we up to this is 142 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:00,680 going to be a funny number 78 pol horse 143 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:03,600 that's not too bad for a couple hours so 144 00:07:07,570 --> 00:07:05,280 there you go we haven't even announced 145 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:07,580 it yet so go and follow us on Instagram 146 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:09,630 fade to black 147 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:12,000 radio all one-word no-spaces fade to 148 00:07:16,909 --> 00:07:14,370 black radio I think I'm so new to 149 00:07:20,060 --> 00:07:16,919 Instagram oh there's a picture of me and 150 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:20,070 a Weimaraner yeah thank you for that 151 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:22,710 Rita that dog does not look happy but 152 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:25,080 photogenic though there you go okay so 153 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:27,720 follow us over and on Instagram fade to 154 00:07:32,630 --> 00:07:30,690 black radio follow us on twitter at JT 155 00:07:36,740 --> 00:07:32,640 radio we will be in touch with everybody 156 00:07:38,780 --> 00:07:36,750 for me SETI will do some live feeds will 157 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:38,790 of course we'll do some periscope stuff 158 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:41,550 maybe we'll do some Facebook live I'm 159 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:43,890 going to be on James's radio show while 160 00:07:47,549 --> 00:07:46,050 we're up there so we're going to be in 161 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:47,559 touch all weekend okay 162 00:07:53,309 --> 00:07:50,409 and then Monday we're taking off for the 163 00:07:56,609 --> 00:07:53,319 fourth of July weekend also because we 164 00:07:58,949 --> 00:07:56,619 are traveling on Monday to get back to 165 00:08:00,629 --> 00:07:58,959 Los Angeles and then boom we kick off 166 00:08:03,659 --> 00:08:00,639 another week on fade to black all right 167 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:03,669 let's see where are we yeah that is some 168 00:08:07,499 --> 00:08:05,199 big breaking news right I didn't think 169 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:07,509 we'd ever do it the Facebook and Twitter 170 00:08:12,209 --> 00:08:10,479 but you've got to stay there are so many 171 00:08:15,929 --> 00:08:12,219 people 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world events were going down especially 256 00:11:50,390 --> 00:11:49,050 right after World War two when we were 257 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:50,400 supposed to be allies and all of this 258 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:53,340 yeah pretty trippy isn't it check this 259 00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:56,850 out fader fact half of all the new cars 260 00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:01,500 in Norway today are either electric or 261 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:06,950 hybrid changing the world and just like 262 00:12:14,510 --> 00:12:11,610 chip Paul who is the you know what chip 263 00:12:15,290 --> 00:12:14,520 welcome to the show and I was just as I 264 00:12:18,139 --> 00:12:15,300 started to 265 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:18,149 introduce you I caught myself I don't 266 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:21,120 know I mean would you call yourself the 267 00:12:28,009 --> 00:12:24,720 proprietor the owner the head cheese the 268 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:28,019 chief bottle washer the lead scientist 269 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:31,920 the crazy dude in the lab coat for new 270 00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:35,160 formal what I think it kind of all of 271 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:37,260 that okay I'm kind of all of that mixed 272 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:39,810 together so but mainly I guess you know 273 00:12:44,690 --> 00:12:41,760 official title is on chief scientist 274 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:44,700 here at new Pharma you don't sound like 275 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:46,980 a scientist you sound cool see that's 276 00:12:55,340 --> 00:12:51,690 the thing everybody this is chip all the 277 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:55,350 brains and partner behind new Pharma one 278 00:13:00,920 --> 00:12:57,690 of our new sponsors here on the show and 279 00:13:04,490 --> 00:13:00,930 I wanted to bring chip on tonight to 280 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:04,500 tell us about the science behind new 281 00:13:09,319 --> 00:13:06,930 pharma what they're about what their 282 00:13:11,540 --> 00:13:09,329 philosophy is and then I've got a couple 283 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:11,550 of trick questions and I'm going to try 284 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:14,130 to stump a chip with which I don't think 285 00:13:20,630 --> 00:13:17,540 I'll be able to do but that's my job so 286 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:20,640 with that chip tell us about new pharma 287 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:24,360 and and what is the company okay well 288 00:13:29,150 --> 00:13:25,920 cool Jimmy well first of all we're just 289 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:29,160 so honored and privileged to be a part 290 00:13:35,090 --> 00:13:32,010 of your network and you know to be in 291 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:35,100 your hemisphere here and it's just it's 292 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:36,720 a real honor I mean I've listened to you 293 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:38,670 for a long long time and so I just feel 294 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:41,790 you know very privileged to you know be 295 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:43,170 a part of your show so thank you very 296 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:46,529 much first of all yes well tell you a 297 00:13:50,660 --> 00:13:48,570 little bit about sorry I was going to 298 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:50,670 say chip for the audience I want them to 299 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:52,890 know that with all of our sponsors here 300 00:13:57,079 --> 00:13:54,540 just like our fader knots and our 301 00:13:59,780 --> 00:13:57,089 listeners in the audience it's just it's 302 00:14:02,180 --> 00:13:59,790 one big family and before we let 303 00:14:04,340 --> 00:14:02,190 somebody into our circle they pass the 304 00:14:07,579 --> 00:14:04,350 sniff test because once you're in you 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:07,589 can't get out and and it's a circle of 306 00:14:15,079 --> 00:14:10,770 trust and that is part of it here you 307 00:14:18,170 --> 00:14:15,089 know and so who who we associate our 308 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:18,180 show with is just as important to us as 309 00:14:22,250 --> 00:14:20,490 it is to you and and I want the audience 310 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:22,260 to know that ok back to the question 311 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:25,529 chip tell us tell us about new pharma ok 312 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:26,970 ok well very cool 313 00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:28,860 well it's so new for I've got to go back 314 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:29,160 in 315 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:31,199 a little bit and I apologize for you 316 00:14:36,939 --> 00:14:32,610 know going on a little bit of a journey 317 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:36,949 here but and my wife and I actually in 318 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:38,910 2013 and this will have a point 319 00:14:44,290 --> 00:14:41,610 eventually but my wife and I in 2013 320 00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:44,300 founded a nonprofit organization and 321 00:14:50,059 --> 00:14:47,040 began to petition across the state of 322 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:50,069 Oklahoma for medical cannabis and as a 323 00:14:55,129 --> 00:14:52,800 result of kind of that effort basically 324 00:14:56,569 --> 00:14:55,139 when we started that effort I kind of 325 00:14:59,090 --> 00:14:56,579 wanted to be the guy behind the scenes 326 00:15:01,369 --> 00:14:59,100 as did my wife we really just wanted to 327 00:15:03,259 --> 00:15:01,379 get the effort started because we felt 328 00:15:05,119 --> 00:15:03,269 there was real value there and you know 329 00:15:07,009 --> 00:15:05,129 just have seen real efficacy with 330 00:15:09,980 --> 00:15:07,019 medical cannabis and how it's helped 331 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:09,990 people so but got involved to that point 332 00:15:14,530 --> 00:15:12,660 and we started this organization and you 333 00:15:17,449 --> 00:15:14,540 know we started a petitioning effort and 334 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:17,459 just it quickly became apparent that I 335 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:20,970 could not recruit a media personality or 336 00:15:24,379 --> 00:15:22,740 a you know physician or somebody like 337 00:15:26,030 --> 00:15:24,389 that who would really you know step 338 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:26,040 forward and take the lead and kind of be 339 00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:29,370 our front man so by virtue of that I 340 00:15:34,189 --> 00:15:31,199 kind of had to be the front man for the 341 00:15:36,829 --> 00:15:34,199 organization so in I'm a professional 342 00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:36,839 you know person in Tulsa Oklahoma and so 343 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:39,360 I really didn't want to do that unless I 344 00:15:45,319 --> 00:15:42,720 was very well versed I guess about 345 00:15:47,569 --> 00:15:45,329 medical cannabis and so I began to learn 346 00:15:49,460 --> 00:15:47,579 everything that I could about medical 347 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:49,470 cannabis but what I quickly learned was 348 00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:51,810 that really the magic you know with that 349 00:15:58,340 --> 00:15:54,839 particular plant is more in the effect 350 00:16:00,379 --> 00:15:58,350 that it has inside our body so the 351 00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:00,389 really interesting thing about cannabis 352 00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:03,060 is not cannabis itself but the something 353 00:16:08,030 --> 00:16:05,790 called the endocannabinoid system that 354 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:08,040 we all have inside of us and actually 355 00:16:15,769 --> 00:16:11,279 not only do we have it like every bird 356 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:15,779 every reptile every mammal every fish on 357 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:17,870 the planet has an endocannabinoid system 358 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:20,970 so it turns out that the system is 359 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:23,850 pretty new and as I begin to read and as 360 00:16:28,879 --> 00:16:26,399 I begin to research it became it's very 361 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:28,889 apparent that this system is a very 362 00:16:34,670 --> 00:16:32,100 important system minimally but in our 363 00:16:36,619 --> 00:16:34,680 research and in our science we argue 364 00:16:39,019 --> 00:16:36,629 that the endocannabinoid system is kind 365 00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:39,029 of your everything system so it's the 366 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:42,760 master regulator in your entire body 367 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:44,770 and your body really works in a very 368 00:16:48,750 --> 00:16:46,990 similar way to how the vehicle works 369 00:16:50,970 --> 00:16:48,760 right so we all understand that we have 370 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:50,980 a vehicle and a vehicle would have a 371 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:53,440 computer and that computer would have a 372 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:57,010 sensor array in that sensor array would 373 00:17:00,330 --> 00:16:58,810 you know have some mechanisms of action 374 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:00,340 associated with it so it would be 375 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:02,770 monitoring your fuel level or oil 376 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:04,959 pressure you know tire pressure whatever 377 00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:08,020 it is and if it noticed change it would 378 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:10,180 make adjustments and basically manage 379 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:12,910 and regulate kind of the homeostasis if 380 00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:15,010 you will of your vehicle or you know 381 00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:16,959 kind of make sure that it's regulated 382 00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:19,300 and in a very similar way our bodies 383 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:23,040 work through our brain and through this 384 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:25,510 endocannabinoid system to manage and 385 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:27,970 regulate almost every aspect of our body 386 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:31,330 right and the reason that you know and 387 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:32,830 there's a lots of ways that you can kind 388 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:34,540 of prove this right but the 389 00:17:38,430 --> 00:17:36,190 endocannabinoid system is really the 390 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:38,440 only system that can touch every single 391 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:41,080 cell in your body and that's a very 392 00:17:46,590 --> 00:17:43,630 powerful statement right so through your 393 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:46,600 brain your brain can manage literally 394 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:49,480 every cell in your body now if you kind 395 00:17:53,610 --> 00:17:51,490 of go on that little journey with us 396 00:17:56,730 --> 00:17:53,620 medicine begins to make a lot of sense 397 00:17:59,700 --> 00:17:56,740 and how the human body functions begins 398 00:18:02,010 --> 00:17:59,710 to make a lot of sense and really things 399 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:02,020 like herbal remedies begin to make a lot 400 00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:04,750 of sense because it turns out that this 401 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:07,990 endocannabinoid system is a nutritional 402 00:18:13,770 --> 00:18:11,650 system so it's fed not only by cannabis 403 00:18:18,270 --> 00:18:13,780 but certainly by other plant-based 404 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:18,280 flavonoids so what we found is that 405 00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:21,490 things like you know very simple and 406 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:23,440 benign plants so things like a white 407 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:26,650 onion would have a flavonoid associated 408 00:18:31,170 --> 00:18:28,420 with it that would affect this 409 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:31,180 endocannabinoid system god--and and 410 00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:33,580 we've you know now sort of advanced this 411 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:34,840 science to the point where we've 412 00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:37,690 patented it and we have university 413 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:39,640 relationships now that are studying you 414 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:43,330 know what we're doing now okay so you 415 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:46,270 are able to focus like with your line of 416 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:48,610 products you have stuff for pain relief 417 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:50,650 or yes stuff or overall wellness you 418 00:18:55,409 --> 00:18:53,380 have for sleeplessness you know some 419 00:18:59,220 --> 00:18:55,419 sleep control stuff 420 00:19:02,669 --> 00:18:59,230 and you you are able to you know laser 421 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:02,679 focus on a specific area instead of 422 00:19:07,259 --> 00:19:05,320 something general all over you know you 423 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:07,269 know what I mean when you take yeah when 424 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:09,730 you take when you take Advil for a 425 00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:12,369 headache but it's affecting your entire 426 00:19:17,129 --> 00:19:14,590 you know what I mean if you have a dull 427 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:17,139 ache you're still taking Advil for free 428 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:21,610 with your stuff you are able to go right 429 00:19:27,149 --> 00:19:25,330 at the issue exactly exactly and it's 430 00:19:29,099 --> 00:19:27,159 interesting because you know we talked 431 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:29,109 about it it almost sounds medical but 432 00:19:33,289 --> 00:19:30,970 it's really not it's really not at all 433 00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:33,299 our stuff all has to do with nutrition 434 00:19:38,669 --> 00:19:35,470 so what we've been able to do 435 00:19:40,769 --> 00:19:38,679 nutritionally is basically mimic medical 436 00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:40,779 cannabis and that's what our patents 437 00:19:46,139 --> 00:19:43,480 have to do with and so medical cannabis 438 00:19:48,629 --> 00:19:46,149 kind of runs along a continuum you know 439 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:48,639 from sativa to indica and that's how you 440 00:19:52,619 --> 00:19:50,289 would treat a patient with medical 441 00:19:55,139 --> 00:19:52,629 cannabis and we mimic basically that 442 00:19:57,149 --> 00:19:55,149 continuum and our you know sort of 443 00:19:58,769 --> 00:19:57,159 taxonomy now is so advanced that we can 444 00:20:01,619 --> 00:19:58,779 do that with multiple herbs and things 445 00:20:04,019 --> 00:20:01,629 which is really cool but we can target 446 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:04,029 very specific things so let's take pain 447 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:07,299 for an example and we in no way you know 448 00:20:10,919 --> 00:20:09,070 are saying that we you know magically 449 00:20:13,769 --> 00:20:10,929 treat pain or with a magic answer to 450 00:20:15,659 --> 00:20:13,779 pain but what happens is that we 451 00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:15,669 nutritionally again support this 452 00:20:21,479 --> 00:20:17,700 endocannabinoid system this 453 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:21,489 endocannabinoid system is 1000% the 454 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,830 master regulator of your immune response 455 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:25,840 and that's very well-established in 456 00:20:31,379 --> 00:20:29,049 research your immune response has to do 457 00:20:33,269 --> 00:20:31,389 with your pain response and and you can 458 00:20:36,239 --> 00:20:33,279 think of it this way a healthy 459 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:36,249 functioning human would not have any 460 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:39,820 pain right right so pain is either the 461 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:43,600 result of a trauma a genetic deficiency 462 00:20:49,950 --> 00:20:47,470 or a resource deficiency so we treat the 463 00:20:52,379 --> 00:20:49,960 resource side of things and you know 464 00:20:53,639 --> 00:20:52,389 most traumas that happen you know we 465 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:53,649 don't have the resources necessary 466 00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:56,169 really to properly heal those traumas 467 00:21:01,080 --> 00:20:59,440 and they remain unhealed and so we even 468 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:01,090 help with resources to kind of start 469 00:21:07,169 --> 00:21:04,450 that healing process and get that you 470 00:21:09,030 --> 00:21:07,179 know affected area and woodsy different 471 00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:09,040 nutritional exercise yeah 472 00:21:13,410 --> 00:21:11,260 and that's kind of the cool thing really 473 00:21:15,390 --> 00:21:13,420 about what we're doing it's very natural 474 00:21:17,670 --> 00:21:15,400 and organic we do everything with you 475 00:21:20,550 --> 00:21:17,680 know very simple and organic herbs so 476 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,560 and and what's interesting here and 477 00:21:24,690 --> 00:21:22,720 before we run out of time I want some 478 00:21:27,860 --> 00:21:24,700 very specific questions answer but 479 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:27,870 what's interesting here is you are 480 00:21:34,350 --> 00:21:31,720 mimicking cannabis there are times when 481 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:34,360 cannabis would be the right way to go 482 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:37,840 like maybe if you've been diagnosed with 483 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:40,630 cancer you would go the cannabis route 484 00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:43,810 you know I would I would think right am 485 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:46,060 I suggesting yes right there there is a 486 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:48,250 time in a place for for medical 487 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:51,610 marijuana yeah absolutely a thousand in 488 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:53,920 it you know we still like I still lead 489 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:55,810 the effort here in Oklahoma and I mean 490 00:21:59,850 --> 00:21:57,250 I'm kind of the medical marijuana guy 491 00:22:02,340 --> 00:21:59,860 right here in Oklahoma and you know 492 00:22:04,290 --> 00:22:02,350 we're on the ballot in 2018 so I believe 493 00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:04,300 very heavily in that as a medicine 494 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:06,280 I'll put it to you this way if you know 495 00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:08,770 Buer my mother and you came to me and 496 00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:10,900 had cancer I would send you to Colorado 497 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:13,180 for the oil treatment right no question 498 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:14,980 I mean knowing you know everything that 499 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:16,450 I know about the endocannabinoid system 500 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:18,040 I still think that that's the most 501 00:22:21,870 --> 00:22:20,050 effective treatment right but if you had 502 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:21,880 a pain issue you know what it was I 503 00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:23,470 thought it was sort of in our wheelhouse 504 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:25,300 and I certainly would give you our stuff 505 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:26,320 over 506 00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:28,810 you know cannabis so it just depends I 507 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:30,820 think on what the thing is but cannabis 508 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:32,950 is very good herbs seem to have a 509 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,690 specialty like they like to go after 510 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:36,640 certain kind of organs and help with 511 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:39,580 certain things cannabis no question you 512 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:41,500 know likes the brain right so it really 513 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:45,280 likes to light up the brain and you know 514 00:22:50,250 --> 00:22:47,170 that's sort of what it does best and it 515 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:50,260 does it you know in sort of a quiet way 516 00:22:55,170 --> 00:22:52,690 you know with CB 2's but it doesn't in a 517 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:55,180 very active way with CB ones right right 518 00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:55,750 right 519 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:01,020 and now there's okay we have a couple of 520 00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:05,170 sponsors on this show and one of that 521 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:09,670 can I drink coffee and and take new 522 00:23:17,010 --> 00:23:11,830 farmer products I'm a big coffee drinker 523 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:17,020 right is there an issue there no no so 524 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:20,590 you will get like our products have a 525 00:23:25,650 --> 00:23:22,510 tendency to affect taller 526 00:23:27,659 --> 00:23:25,660 right so for things like caffeine that 527 00:23:30,419 --> 00:23:27,669 do give you you know a little bit of 528 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:30,429 stimulation it might increase the effect 529 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:33,850 a little bit you know and that's sort of 530 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:35,470 a common thing that happens with our 531 00:23:39,539 --> 00:23:37,990 products you know within you do you know 532 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,549 gotta be advised I mean it happens with 533 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:41,200 alcohol or it happens with cannabis so 534 00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:43,450 it's but I would think that it might 535 00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:45,640 increase you know the caffeine a little 536 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:48,160 bit right it certainly is safe no 537 00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:50,530 question so okay I'm okay with that now 538 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:53,980 what about you know life change tea you 539 00:24:01,980 --> 00:23:59,290 know their products yeah it and my 540 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:01,990 family my friends our staff our 541 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:04,570 listeners all drink that tea and take 542 00:24:12,090 --> 00:24:07,600 those products who as well can can these 543 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:12,100 can new Pharma and life change t coexist 544 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:16,090 oh absolutely and in fact you know it's 545 00:24:20,490 --> 00:24:17,700 interesting that you say that because 546 00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:20,500 you know the principle there and I had a 547 00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:22,540 conversation today about a whole bunch 548 00:24:27,419 --> 00:24:24,940 of ways that we can coexist so okay yes 549 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:27,429 absolutely and he's a really you know 550 00:24:33,090 --> 00:24:31,210 committed guy very ethical guy and as 551 00:24:35,370 --> 00:24:33,100 you're saying and I mean I hope your 552 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:35,380 listeners are aware of how ethical you 553 00:24:41,370 --> 00:24:39,400 are because you know I I wouldn't be on 554 00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:41,380 this show if we didn't kind of all get 555 00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:44,049 along right so and I just so much 556 00:24:48,090 --> 00:24:46,630 appreciate that it but he is as well so 557 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:48,100 I think yes absolutely to answer your 558 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:49,990 question Lots we could do together now 559 00:24:56,130 --> 00:24:54,130 we've got you're doing a promo for the 560 00:25:00,330 --> 00:24:56,140 fate or nots if you use the promo code F 561 00:25:03,810 --> 00:25:00,340 to be what what does that get a fate or 562 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:03,820 not so basically that gets fate or knots 563 00:25:08,610 --> 00:25:07,000 our wholesale price to be quite honest I 564 00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:08,620 mean we're really trying to promote our 565 00:25:14,370 --> 00:25:11,320 products in it and as you know Jimmy it 566 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:14,380 you know I'm a long time Coast coast 567 00:25:19,950 --> 00:25:17,410 listener you know the audience here is 568 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:19,960 very important to me we purposefully 569 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:21,970 kind of introduced our products at 570 00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:24,130 contact in the desert that certainly 571 00:25:28,409 --> 00:25:25,360 wasn't the biggest show we could go to 572 00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:28,419 right but your audience is important to 573 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:31,120 us and so we're offering you know a 574 00:25:36,029 --> 00:25:34,330 really good price to your audience you 575 00:25:37,859 --> 00:25:36,039 know in 33 percent off our product 576 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:37,869 it's basically our wholesale price that 577 00:25:42,239 --> 00:25:39,850 we're offering your audience and it's 578 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:42,249 our show price that we had a contact so 579 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:47,279 that's 33% off boom yep all product now 580 00:25:55,019 --> 00:25:51,570 with that the in the capsules is 581 00:25:59,099 --> 00:25:55,029 everything how do you approach the GMO 582 00:26:01,859 --> 00:25:59,109 aspect I know that what you do and the 583 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:01,869 university that you do your studies at 584 00:26:07,409 --> 00:26:04,330 and your research at GMO is a very 585 00:26:10,349 --> 00:26:07,419 important thing for for you and the 586 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:10,359 organic side and pesticides how do you 587 00:26:15,690 --> 00:26:13,720 guys approach that so we in this that's 588 00:26:18,389 --> 00:26:15,700 a great question and a lot of people 589 00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:18,399 really don't realize this you know one 590 00:26:22,019 --> 00:26:20,169 of the universities that we work with is 591 00:26:23,399 --> 00:26:22,029 a they work all the time with natural 592 00:26:26,099 --> 00:26:23,409 products and they do a lot of natural 593 00:26:30,450 --> 00:26:26,109 product testing which is supplements and 594 00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:30,460 vitamins and herbal products over 30% of 595 00:26:34,529 --> 00:26:32,440 the products on the market are not what 596 00:26:36,779 --> 00:26:34,539 you think they are and that and that's a 597 00:26:39,019 --> 00:26:36,789 very conservative estimate it's probably 598 00:26:41,969 --> 00:26:39,029 actually much higher than that but 30% 599 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:41,979 so what we do and I'll tell you some 600 00:26:45,810 --> 00:26:43,570 stories about this just real quick but 601 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:45,820 we test every single herb that goes in 602 00:26:51,539 --> 00:26:47,710 our product and we only use herbs and 603 00:26:54,719 --> 00:26:51,549 they're completely non GMO organic but 604 00:26:56,249 --> 00:26:54,729 we test every herb 14 times so we test 605 00:26:58,469 --> 00:26:56,259 it for what it is we test it for 606 00:27:01,109 --> 00:26:58,479 moisture we test it for pesticides we 607 00:27:02,969 --> 00:27:01,119 test it for heavy metals and we have 608 00:27:04,919 --> 00:27:02,979 several different identity tests and 609 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:04,929 make sure that it's exactly what we say 610 00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:06,609 that it is and it's very important to us 611 00:27:11,609 --> 00:27:08,830 because we are doing University level 612 00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:11,619 research so let's say we found something 613 00:27:18,239 --> 00:27:14,200 you know we discovered cure for cancer 614 00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:18,249 and it would be completely invalid if we 615 00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:20,349 did not know exactly what was in our 616 00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:23,320 formulation so so quality is incredibly 617 00:27:29,219 --> 00:27:26,340 important to us and we just had our 618 00:27:31,789 --> 00:27:29,229 science advisor here who's a he's a 619 00:27:34,409 --> 00:27:31,799 script strain PhD is a really cool guy 620 00:27:36,719 --> 00:27:34,419 but he was here really to talk to us 621 00:27:39,779 --> 00:27:36,729 about our quality program and he put us 622 00:27:42,659 --> 00:27:39,789 through kind of a mock FDA inspection 623 00:27:45,149 --> 00:27:42,669 and audit and and we you know did very 624 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:45,159 well through that process so as in we're 625 00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:47,109 a new company we're an emerging company 626 00:27:49,650 --> 00:27:49,179 but as we develop wherewithal you know 627 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:49,660 we're going to 628 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:50,530 go through these additional 629 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:52,450 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Housh is going to be here to 729 00:33:08,619 --> 00:33:06,590 talk about the new anonymous video which 730 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:08,629 claims that NASA is about to disclose 731 00:33:14,969 --> 00:33:11,289 alien contact and then Wednesday night 732 00:33:18,369 --> 00:33:14,979 that's right the voice of ancient aliens 733 00:33:20,979 --> 00:33:18,379 Robert clot worthy is going to be right 734 00:33:24,849 --> 00:33:20,989 here I'm fade to black and I've got to 735 00:33:28,210 --> 00:33:24,859 get him to say ancient alien theorists 736 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:28,220 to say I got I just got to go there but 737 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:30,169 right now it's about Jay Widener and 738 00:33:33,849 --> 00:33:33,049 before I do a big long intro with Jay 739 00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:33,859 should I do 740 00:33:42,729 --> 00:33:38,960 called him the authority on hermetic and 741 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,739 alchemical traditions talk about his 742 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:44,960 Stanley Kubrick stuff the ultimate trip 743 00:33:51,159 --> 00:33:48,470 infinity journey beyond death everything 744 00:33:53,739 --> 00:33:51,169 avatar the last avatar he's a writer 745 00:33:56,169 --> 00:33:53,749 he's a researcher he's a friend I've 746 00:33:58,930 --> 00:33:56,179 respected him forever we've had some of 747 00:34:02,019 --> 00:33:58,940 the most amazing conversations on this 748 00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:02,029 show and Jay and I this is my intro I'm 749 00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:04,340 bypassing the one that I wrote today 750 00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,440 because I want to say this Jay and I we 751 00:34:13,210 --> 00:34:11,359 got together about a year ago and he 752 00:34:15,279 --> 00:34:13,220 came up and he just kind of whispered to 753 00:34:18,339 --> 00:34:15,289 me man that interview man that that show 754 00:34:20,889 --> 00:34:18,349 we did unfold kennelly 755 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:20,899 it still to this day was my passage a 756 00:34:28,690 --> 00:34:24,169 mine to and we sat down and talked about 757 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:28,700 our conversation on the show and that's 758 00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:30,770 what it is it's about mutual respect 759 00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:34,609 but now Jay has found himself in the 760 00:34:39,609 --> 00:34:36,919 proverbial hot seat a great position to 761 00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:39,619 be in because he is the senior director 762 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,710 of content over at Gaia TV he is 763 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:44,480 developing and producing all of those 764 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:46,609 cutting edge programs over there but 765 00:34:50,169 --> 00:34:47,750 last week 766 00:34:52,899 --> 00:34:50,179 Gaia released a video report with a 767 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:52,909 three fingered three-toed mummy that was 768 00:34:58,450 --> 00:34:55,730 discovered in Nazca Peru since its 769 00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,460 release it has gone completely berserk 770 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:00,240 oh by 771 00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:04,530 with as of today my calculations are 772 00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:06,300 with the combination of the two videos 773 00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:09,300 that I have posted over 60 million views 774 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:13,260 in five days now that's insane and now 775 00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:15,180 there is more than one mummy so I'm 776 00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:17,070 calling it mummy so we're going to talk 777 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:19,740 about that and we're going to and get 778 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:21,210 all of those questions out that our 779 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,570 community and deserves and the impact 780 00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:26,880 that the video guy and it's evidence 781 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:31,350 will have on disclosure he was patient 782 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:34,410 and went on coast to coast with me on 783 00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:38,070 Friday sat in the hot seat and I did not 784 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:41,640 disclose any questions in advance to Jay 785 00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:44,490 and he answered them again without 786 00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:46,590 speculation and that's what we need here 787 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:49,140 and he agreed to come back on the show 788 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:51,660 tonight to take things one step further 789 00:35:56,330 --> 00:35:53,640 I want to welcome back to fade to black 790 00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:56,340 the one and only mr. Jay Widener Jay 791 00:36:01,760 --> 00:35:59,130 good evening hey it's great to be here 792 00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:01,770 yeah Jay thank you thank you for Friday 793 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:06,390 and the is the hot seat at the moment 794 00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:10,410 that's you but I have to thank you for 795 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:13,710 that too as well because it's it's tough 796 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:15,660 when you're trying to do the right thing 797 00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:18,540 and then you have to fight that battle 798 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:21,180 out there and and you have to be very 799 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:24,290 cautious and do things the right way um 800 00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:27,930 did you expect the blowback that is 801 00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:32,880 happening today I may be I'm not sure 802 00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:36,420 what the blowback is is it good or bad 803 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:39,800 what good so okay so what you're saying 804 00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:43,410 which is well you understand the 805 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:46,680 question certainly and in what's what's 806 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:48,810 interesting with me 807 00:36:55,099 --> 00:36:51,320 maybe I'll direct it a little more 808 00:36:57,380 --> 00:36:55,109 focused here is that we have two 809 00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:57,390 different camps here the obvious ones we 810 00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:00,119 have those out there that are seeing the 811 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:04,920 video and saying this is an alien mummy 812 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:07,710 right and and and they're happy with 813 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:10,290 that from just seeing a video then we 814 00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:12,540 have the other side from just seeing the 815 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:13,800 video that's saying the 816 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:18,570 all BS from just seeing a video and I've 817 00:37:24,590 --> 00:37:21,690 asked everybody on both sides slow down 818 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:24,600 with that it's just a video we have to 819 00:37:28,850 --> 00:37:27,210 wait for the evidence and that's that's 820 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:28,860 what I'm saying are you surprised about 821 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:32,970 that where a it is so polarized on both 822 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:35,130 sides and and we're still waiting for 823 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:38,130 the evidence to come in well yes I'm 824 00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:41,190 definitely surprised by that I am very 825 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:43,800 surprised by people who are jumping to 826 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:46,530 conclusions and saying that it's fake 827 00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:50,970 without calling me or anyone at Gaia or 828 00:37:57,310 --> 00:37:53,220 anyone who's seen the evidence and 829 00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,320 asking us our opinion so far the only 830 00:38:03,010 --> 00:38:00,000 journalist and I consider him a true 831 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:03,020 journalist who's actually asked me 832 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:05,930 legitimate questions is Jon Rappoport 833 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:08,190 everyone else has just jumped to 834 00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:10,470 conclusions and I've never seen anything 835 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:12,870 quite like it and I don't understand 836 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:15,510 what's fueling this you'd think that 837 00:38:21,460 --> 00:38:17,250 this would be something that people 838 00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:21,470 would want to embrace but instead 839 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,160 they're been so injured in the past with 840 00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:28,560 the fake arees that have occurred that 841 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:29,820 there's no way they're going to be 842 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:32,490 convinced that this is real and I don't 843 00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:36,720 play with that I want I want to get some 844 00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:38,520 some direct questions out of the way 845 00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:41,160 really quick let's start there there has 846 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:43,790 been a lot of questions about 847 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:47,160 cleanliness a scientific environment 848 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:50,490 that you know this was exposed out in 849 00:38:56,110 --> 00:38:52,590 the street and you know it's being kept 850 00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:56,120 in a box and it's not in a medical 851 00:39:01,940 --> 00:38:59,450 atmosphere and it could potentially be 852 00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:01,950 contaminating and certainly the test 853 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:04,950 samples that I have been drawn could be 854 00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:07,320 contaminated because of not an unclean 855 00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:10,950 environment how do you address that it's 856 00:39:19,340 --> 00:39:15,230 totally true that that could be however 857 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:19,350 the samples were taken you know deep 858 00:39:24,590 --> 00:39:21,450 within the body and then placed 859 00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:24,600 immediately into test tubes no was in 860 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:26,190 the hospital environment we couldn't do 861 00:39:30,089 --> 00:39:26,950 anything about the 862 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:30,099 we all could only do what they people 863 00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:32,770 that had the body you know operate in 864 00:39:40,349 --> 00:39:36,180 the circumstances that they want us to 865 00:39:43,579 --> 00:39:40,359 but even if the test samples were 866 00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:43,589 somehow contaminated that would not 867 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:48,700 explain how three different labs have 868 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:51,760 carbon dated it at the same exact you 869 00:39:56,910 --> 00:39:54,970 know 150 year period now and I want to 870 00:40:00,180 --> 00:39:56,920 confirm that so we have three 871 00:40:04,859 --> 00:40:00,190 independent laboratories that have now 872 00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:04,869 carbon dated to this 1,800 year mark can 873 00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,839 you say who those laboratories are I not 874 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:10,240 just well but I will okay coming okay 875 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,250 all right so but only because I don't 876 00:40:16,829 --> 00:40:13,839 want them to talk to each other right 877 00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:16,839 right okay fair enough fair enough yeah 878 00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:19,359 in the scientific modalities at layer 879 00:40:24,359 --> 00:40:21,160 okay 880 00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,369 the other question and I've gotten so 881 00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,760 much email about this I said a simple 882 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:30,400 Google search will answer a lot of 883 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:32,530 people's questions about this but I just 884 00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:34,930 want to hear from you because now in the 885 00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:36,790 last two months you have become a total 886 00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:41,349 expert you're a PhD and mummy now I know 887 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:43,750 that actually yeah yeah absolutely 888 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:46,930 okay that it's in this seated position 889 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:49,690 with its feet up to his chest and that 890 00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:53,760 this is not a natural mummy position and 891 00:41:00,120 --> 00:40:57,160 and I can't answer all of the email on 892 00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:00,130 this so I want you to wow much any 893 00:41:08,730 --> 00:41:04,569 tackle this one yes okay okay this one 894 00:41:13,950 --> 00:41:08,740 is coming from my heart okay I'm in the 895 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:13,960 middle of doing a series on the great 896 00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:16,630 anthropologist Robert Lawler and his 897 00:41:23,309 --> 00:41:19,710 work on the Australian Australian 898 00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:23,319 Aborigines and in the series he talks 899 00:41:32,819 --> 00:41:28,660 about advanced spiritual cultures and 900 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:32,829 that when they bury their dead they bury 901 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:36,760 them in exactly the way that our friend 902 00:41:40,410 --> 00:41:39,609 is buried including the tilting of the 903 00:41:44,089 --> 00:41:40,420 head 904 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:44,099 into the sky just that that is a 905 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:48,130 advanced spiritual practice which is 906 00:41:55,979 --> 00:41:51,970 about connecting with the ock as an 907 00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:55,989 Egyptian pecan or this sky spirit which 908 00:42:04,049 --> 00:42:00,160 is a spirit which every human has which 909 00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:04,059 is reflected in the sky above them and 910 00:42:10,049 --> 00:42:07,630 it's kind of like a bird spirit and the 911 00:42:14,489 --> 00:42:10,059 Egyptians believe this the Indians 912 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:14,499 believed Amer the ancient Vedic Indians 913 00:42:20,489 --> 00:42:17,650 believed this if it's present in many 914 00:42:24,349 --> 00:42:20,499 many cultures and what I get from that 915 00:42:28,229 --> 00:42:24,359 position is that this is a very advanced 916 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:28,239 spiritual culture who understood the 917 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:32,170 deepest concepts of the afterlife with 918 00:42:38,549 --> 00:42:35,529 the amount of mummies that are in Peru 919 00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:38,559 probably more than in than in Egypt if 920 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:39,940 you can imagine that for a second 921 00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:41,650 there's reasons for that it's the Atma 922 00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:45,180 it's the altitude it's it's the climate 923 00:42:51,269 --> 00:42:48,599 they are preserved really well there but 924 00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:51,279 out of the thousands of mummies there 925 00:42:57,509 --> 00:42:54,160 how many are in this seated position in 926 00:43:01,799 --> 00:42:57,519 Peru nearly all of them is this a 927 00:43:05,009 --> 00:43:01,809 tradition oh no most aren't but the dead 928 00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:05,019 were buried in this position and that's 929 00:43:09,059 --> 00:43:06,220 what I'm saying 930 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:09,069 oh so then yeah the dead would be buried 931 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:11,890 they weren't necessarily mummified but 932 00:43:15,539 --> 00:43:13,690 they would always bury their dead in 933 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:15,549 this kind of position and this position 934 00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:20,470 is not just germane to Peru it's what 935 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,220 they would do in many many cultures from 936 00:43:31,979 --> 00:43:26,640 Australia to Africa to Asia to Europe 937 00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:31,989 the tucking of the legs the wrapping 938 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:34,329 around and the tilting of the head 939 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:36,910 looking up you know your rigor mortis is 940 00:43:43,289 --> 00:43:39,849 setting in and your you're setting your 941 00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:43,299 body you know so that is left and 942 00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:46,660 eternity in your mind anyway you know 943 00:43:53,249 --> 00:43:49,480 you're being a primitive people that is 944 00:43:54,570 --> 00:43:53,259 now set to return back to its source and 945 00:43:59,550 --> 00:43:54,580 this is a 946 00:44:02,370 --> 00:43:59,560 deep Egyptian concept about the return 947 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:02,380 of the BA to the Ock and a lot of people 948 00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:04,210 are going what's he talking about but 949 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:07,750 you know it's it's a it's a when I saw 950 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:11,590 that body in that position I knew I was 951 00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,530 dealing with a very advanced spiritual 952 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:16,480 culture in other words what I'm saying 953 00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:18,610 is that we're at a very advanced 954 00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:21,640 material culture that's completely 955 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:24,520 different than a very advanced spiritual 956 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:26,650 culture a spiritual culture puts all of 957 00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:30,250 its emphasis on the spirit what happens 958 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:32,230 when you die the afterlife 959 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:35,770 this is Egypt this is India three 960 00:44:39,690 --> 00:44:38,350 thousand four thousand years ago we live 961 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:39,700 in a completely different kind of 962 00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:42,190 culture where we're all of our emphasis 963 00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:44,920 is placed on material so we're buried 964 00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:47,800 with a big rich coffin where they're not 965 00:44:52,530 --> 00:44:50,620 buried with a coffin at all and it's a 966 00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:52,540 completely different outlook but again 967 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:55,420 when I saw that position I knew that 968 00:45:00,990 --> 00:44:58,210 this was not some kind of primitive 969 00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:01,000 monkey culture or something this was a 970 00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:02,950 culture that understood 971 00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:05,620 what happens when you die where you go 972 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,320 what we know the whole entire science of 973 00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:11,040 the afterlife now there's the other 974 00:45:17,790 --> 00:45:14,260 there's the elephant in the room and and 975 00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:17,800 I'm watching Twitter blow by here and we 976 00:45:23,820 --> 00:45:19,900 have to talk about timing was on for a 977 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:23,830 second the I listen to Jaime do another 978 00:45:28,740 --> 00:45:25,930 radio interview last week where he 979 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:28,750 addressed the issue himself right and I 980 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:31,750 was pretty impressed where he just came 981 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,140 out and cried out and said I recognized 982 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:36,880 that because I'm involved with this 983 00:45:44,490 --> 00:45:39,370 people are saying that it must be a hoax 984 00:45:46,350 --> 00:45:44,500 now how did you feel as you know with 985 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,360 after the Roswell slides in our 986 00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:48,160 community and how they dealt with this 987 00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:52,600 last year and obviously Jaime's name is 988 00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:55,630 tied to this what did gaya 989 00:46:02,670 --> 00:45:58,720 and you specifically decide to do about 990 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:02,680 it and did it change your mind uh well 991 00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:06,250 first off I like Jaime I mean I just 992 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,500 like him I try 993 00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:10,240 the trip with him I didn't know him 994 00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:13,300 before I'd met him 20 years before but 995 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:16,060 I'd never really knew him and I liked 996 00:46:19,290 --> 00:46:16,510 him 997 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:19,300 secondly you know would you been a 998 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:21,460 journalist you know and you're going to 999 00:46:28,650 --> 00:46:26,290 find this out Jimmy as you as you go on 1000 00:46:32,130 --> 00:46:28,660 in life you know when you're journalists 1001 00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:32,140 for 45 years you make mistakes you make 1002 00:46:37,770 --> 00:46:35,080 effuse you know what I mean it just it 1003 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:37,780 happens sometimes in a weak moment you 1004 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:41,170 get taken now I am a journalist and I 1005 00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:43,570 have not been taken that much but I've 1006 00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:45,880 been taken a couple times and I'm not 1007 00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,820 proud of the fact that I was taken I'm 1008 00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:51,040 very proud of the fact that I am right 1009 00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:53,020 most of the time when I investigate a 1010 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,420 case and I'm very very sad when I'm 1011 00:47:00,690 --> 00:46:57,760 wrong Jaime was wrong 1012 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:00,700 and he had totally admits it he too 1013 00:47:05,730 --> 00:47:03,370 admitted it to me he admitted his sorrow 1014 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:05,740 over being wrong he admitted that he was 1015 00:47:11,010 --> 00:47:08,590 a fool for being wrong he admitted that 1016 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:11,020 he brought friends in who had been made 1017 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:12,730 to look like fools and he was wrong 1018 00:47:19,110 --> 00:47:15,790 about that but it only happened once and 1019 00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:19,120 may I think twice actually but and and I 1020 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:21,790 think we have to understand that 1021 00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:25,960 Jaime does not have what I have I have a 1022 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:29,200 large corporation with many lawyers many 1023 00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:32,080 scientists who can come and look at what 1024 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:34,750 I'm looking at Jaime's running a pretty 1025 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:38,170 much very small operation where he 1026 00:47:43,380 --> 00:47:41,110 doesn't have a lot of ability to due 1027 00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:43,390 diligence even though he is a journalist 1028 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:46,060 and he should due diligence you know and 1029 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:48,130 he got taken basically doesn't matter 1030 00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:51,130 whether he could do due diligence or not 1031 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:54,340 he got taken he knows he got taken it's 1032 00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:57,490 a sad fact but it's the truth and I 1033 00:48:03,150 --> 00:48:00,400 think he's forever grateful you know 1034 00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:03,160 that I was along because I was going to 1035 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:05,860 make dang sure that my reputation wasn't 1036 00:48:08,310 --> 00:48:07,450 going to get destroyed by this and 1037 00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:08,320 that's 1038 00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:12,820 and so I'm doing everything I can to 1039 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:15,310 assure your audience that you know this 1040 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:17,770 is not a hoax as far as I can tell in 1041 00:48:22,109 --> 00:48:20,710 any way shape or form this large 1042 00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:22,119 creature we're calling bird 1043 00:48:30,420 --> 00:48:25,420 riah is a real being from every 1044 00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:30,430 appearance and I don't think that this 1045 00:48:37,799 --> 00:48:35,049 time Jaime is going to be robbed V when 1046 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:37,809 somebody says to me that it's a hoax 1047 00:48:42,569 --> 00:48:40,210 right that this is fake I don't 1048 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:42,579 understand the statement are you saying 1049 00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:44,890 it's a fake mummy or it's a fake body 1050 00:48:49,019 --> 00:48:46,990 right I mean what do you mean I know 1051 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:49,029 anybody the Russian it's like the 1052 00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:51,460 Russian influence on the election it's 1053 00:48:54,989 --> 00:48:53,140 like they keep saying all the russians 1054 00:48:57,799 --> 00:48:54,999 hacked the election like well how do 1055 00:49:00,450 --> 00:48:57,809 they do it what do they do you know I 1056 00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,460 explained yourself and nobody can ever 1057 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:02,559 explain themselves that's the same thing 1058 00:49:07,739 --> 00:49:05,049 with the always a hoax we're just out of 1059 00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:07,749 the blue you're calling it a hoax really 1060 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:09,730 you're not even a call me and ask me 1061 00:49:15,779 --> 00:49:13,210 questions like you have done like Jon 1062 00:49:17,339 --> 00:49:15,789 Rappoport is done like other journalists 1063 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:17,349 have done you're just going to come 1064 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:21,450 right on the air my enter my email is 1065 00:49:26,099 --> 00:49:23,890 absolutely you type in my name and you 1066 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:26,109 will find my email within three clicks 1067 00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:28,690 there is no way in the world that anyone 1068 00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:32,529 could not write me and ask me questions 1069 00:49:41,509 --> 00:49:36,190 and I will answer them I guarantee you 1070 00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:41,519 that skull is attached to the neck I 1071 00:49:47,339 --> 00:49:43,630 guarantee those hands are actually 1072 00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:47,349 attached to the rest I mean you know 1073 00:49:52,769 --> 00:49:50,049 there's no scar tissue for removal of 1074 00:49:56,029 --> 00:49:52,779 thumbs and little fingers there's no 1075 00:49:58,890 --> 00:49:56,039 holes or anything that would be there 1076 00:50:00,720 --> 00:49:58,900 you know we just you say at some point 1077 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:00,730 you've got to come to grips with the 1078 00:50:05,970 --> 00:50:03,430 fact that this is much much too hard to 1079 00:50:08,729 --> 00:50:05,980 fake and you can go to the videos and 1080 00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:08,739 you can stop them and look at the x-rays 1081 00:50:14,999 --> 00:50:12,880 and see for yourself this so it's not 1082 00:50:17,370 --> 00:50:15,009 like anything is being hidden so these 1083 00:50:19,859 --> 00:50:17,380 people that are calling hoaxes are going 1084 00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:19,869 to serious regret and I think and it 1085 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:22,390 probably hits their horse too long or 1086 00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:24,970 the wrong wagon but the real shot their 1087 00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,619 fault because they've been burned so 1088 00:50:30,059 --> 00:50:28,480 many times that's exactly it and that's 1089 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:30,069 why I just want everybody to take a deep 1090 00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:32,890 breath and just enjoy the ride enjoy the 1091 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:34,680 ride it's going to be a lot of fun 1092 00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:37,050 you know if it's fake we'll find out 1093 00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:38,910 very short order I don't know what could 1094 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:41,700 be fake but we'll find out if it's real 1095 00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:44,610 as if it's an intact 18 hundred year old 1096 00:50:48,290 --> 00:50:46,560 mummy with three fingers and three toes 1097 00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:48,300 holy crap 1098 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:51,510 right we've got a long fun ride in front 1099 00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:53,370 of us so let's just let's just sit back 1100 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:54,990 take a deep breath and enjoy ourselves 1101 00:51:00,320 --> 00:50:57,690 now let me add we're doing it right is 1102 00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:00,330 that what you'd understand is for the 1103 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:02,940 first time no government interference 1104 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:06,510 for the first time a group of people 1105 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:08,610 actually have the money to do this right 1106 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:11,730 are doing it right we're reporting it to 1107 00:51:17,180 --> 00:51:14,540 the public as we do it we're 100% 1108 00:51:19,340 --> 00:51:17,190 transparent we have nothing to hide if 1109 00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:19,350 it turns out to be a hoax I will be the 1110 00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:21,510 first person to come out and say we're 1111 00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:24,900 sorry we wasted your time there you go 1112 00:51:32,210 --> 00:51:27,510 now now now let me ask you a couple of 1113 00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:32,220 other questions for me as I have looked 1114 00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:35,160 at the again trying to address this it's 1115 00:51:41,570 --> 00:51:39,390 a fake issue right the the wrists and 1116 00:51:46,610 --> 00:51:41,580 the way that the fingers and the bones 1117 00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,620 are put together it it it's anatomical 1118 00:51:50,420 --> 00:51:48,480 it looks like it grew that way to my 1119 00:52:04,070 --> 00:51:50,430 eyes I'm not a surgeon I'm not an 1120 00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:04,080 anthropologist J and around the feet is 1121 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:07,350 there any disturbance around the skin 1122 00:52:14,690 --> 00:52:10,970 that would suggest somebody has inserted 1123 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:14,700 these bones or reconstructed the hands 1124 00:52:21,490 --> 00:52:17,610 to make them have this appearance or is 1125 00:52:24,830 --> 00:52:21,500 this 18 hundred years old natural it is 1126 00:52:28,210 --> 00:52:24,840 1,800 years old natural I am claiming I 1127 00:52:32,030 --> 00:52:28,220 do not see any evidence I can't imagine 1128 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:32,040 the person that did this hoax they must 1129 00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:35,610 be the Leonardo of the 21st century and 1130 00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:38,070 we need to find that person and we need 1131 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:40,230 to get them into Hollywood we need to 1132 00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:42,690 get them into black ops because this 1133 00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:45,150 person is the most valuable person alive 1134 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:48,030 they're able to make a skeleton and 1135 00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:50,730 an exoskeleton that is perfect without 1136 00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:56,220 flaws I mean the whole thing is you know 1137 00:53:02,300 --> 00:52:58,740 an amazing work of art if it's a hoax 1138 00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:02,310 now the doctor that is there from the 1139 00:53:09,490 --> 00:53:04,110 University of Colorado I'm assuming in 1140 00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:09,500 Boulder right yes okay now as she's 1141 00:53:15,350 --> 00:53:11,910 looking at these x-rays in these 1142 00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:15,360 cat-scans has she raised any red flags 1143 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:17,640 so she said to you okay but you know 1144 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:20,850 this is good but there's a problem here 1145 00:53:27,260 --> 00:53:23,250 has she pointed out anything that could 1146 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:27,270 raise an eyebrow for you guys not at all 1147 00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:30,330 in fact I think she somewhat befuddled 1148 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:34,200 by the whole thing being a total total 1149 00:53:40,310 --> 00:53:37,410 complete normal scientist the 1150 00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:40,320 expressions on my and my interpretation 1151 00:53:47,180 --> 00:53:43,680 of the expressions on her face watching 1152 00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:47,190 her in the video is there is a level of 1153 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:49,800 befuddlement going on in the background 1154 00:53:55,550 --> 00:53:52,650 in her thought stream oh yet say that's 1155 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:55,560 true because she hasn't said that but I 1156 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,810 just see that as a body language guy 1157 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:00,480 that there's something in her is going 1158 00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:04,770 hmm right right is that now is she where 1159 00:54:11,180 --> 00:54:08,270 were you did you tell her in advance 1160 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:11,190 what this was did she know what she was 1161 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:13,530 looking at and did she know that there 1162 00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,490 may be an alien Quebec City er did she 1163 00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:19,680 know any of that in advance you know how 1164 00:54:24,590 --> 00:54:21,300 did you approach her in school 1165 00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:24,600 no I we haven't told her anything before 1166 00:54:31,810 --> 00:54:27,960 and anything since we let her make her 1167 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:31,820 own conclusions how is the university 1168 00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:34,170 doing today have you talked to the 1169 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:36,630 university sense no they're fine 1170 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:38,790 everything is fine you know they're 1171 00:54:45,350 --> 00:54:42,210 they're curious and they're going to do 1172 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:45,360 more tests okay so they they are okay 1173 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:47,490 with having I'm asking the obvious 1174 00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:48,810 question here you know it says 1175 00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:51,480 University of Colorado right are they 1176 00:54:57,260 --> 00:54:55,200 are they okay with this association with 1177 00:54:59,920 --> 00:54:57,270 Gaia and the implications and the 1178 00:55:01,600 --> 00:54:59,930 heaviness of what this could mean 1179 00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:01,610 I have no idea what the head of the 1180 00:55:06,490 --> 00:55:04,150 universities of thinking but on the 1181 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:06,500 radiologist has no problem working with 1182 00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:09,890 us now the other question is sutures in 1183 00:55:15,490 --> 00:55:13,310 the skull I now that I even know through 1184 00:55:17,170 --> 00:55:15,500 my studies you know what sutures are and 1185 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:17,180 what those implications are from birth 1186 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:19,490 and moving forward into adulthood 1187 00:55:23,860 --> 00:55:22,400 whenever I see a skull I swear Jay I 1188 00:55:26,890 --> 00:55:23,870 look for sutures I don't care what 1189 00:55:30,490 --> 00:55:26,900 what's going on and that we had that 1190 00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:30,500 situation right in front of his here and 1191 00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:31,760 we have that white powder that's 1192 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:34,390 involved are there sutures on that skull 1193 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:35,810 apparently not 1194 00:55:41,170 --> 00:55:39,050 Wow when it would stir being a dad to 1195 00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:41,180 you I mean that's that I crazy 1196 00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:43,430 it's absolutely mind-blowing I don't 1197 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:45,440 know what to make of it I'm like what 1198 00:55:51,490 --> 00:55:48,530 really you know I think I don't know 1199 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:51,500 what to say I mean I really don't and I 1200 00:55:56,410 --> 00:55:54,050 you know and I suppose some people say 1201 00:55:59,950 --> 00:55:56,420 love maybe that's evidence of fakery and 1202 00:56:01,390 --> 00:55:59,960 maybe it is we'll find out but I don't 1203 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:01,400 think so I think it's something else 1204 00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:02,960 yeah yeah I think it's something else 1205 00:56:07,390 --> 00:56:05,420 too I'm one other question before we 1206 00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:07,400 head to the break we've got 60 seconds 1207 00:56:15,940 --> 00:56:13,040 the finger tips I see as something that 1208 00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:15,950 appears to be fingernails but but also a 1209 00:56:20,260 --> 00:56:18,140 little bit uglier than fingernails are 1210 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:20,270 they are they thicker are they more claw 1211 00:56:26,410 --> 00:56:23,330 like on the fingertips a little bit yeah 1212 00:56:28,690 --> 00:56:26,420 a little bit of an edge claw like yeah I 1213 00:56:30,850 --> 00:56:28,700 would say so yeah bird almost bird-like 1214 00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,860 I don't know I don't know yeah bird like 1215 00:56:34,690 --> 00:56:32,960 you know that was my first impression 1216 00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:34,700 right actually I don't want it I don't 1217 00:56:41,050 --> 00:56:37,760 want to make any speculation here but 1218 00:56:44,590 --> 00:56:41,060 with the know no fatty tissue around the 1219 00:56:47,650 --> 00:56:44,600 ears and the very small nose I got the 1220 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:47,660 idea that this was either something that 1221 00:56:51,730 --> 00:56:49,610 flew through the air and needed 1222 00:56:55,180 --> 00:56:51,740 aerodynamics or was swimming in the 1223 00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,190 water that was my initial impression 1224 00:56:59,560 --> 00:56:57,440 when I was on that rooftop interesting 1225 00:57:01,900 --> 00:56:59,570 so possibly webbed feet ooh 1226 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:01,910 I'm like there was there weren't any 1227 00:57:06,250 --> 00:57:03,530 webbed feet but there could be even the 1228 00:57:08,260 --> 00:57:06,260 skin was off the the toes so we can't 1229 00:57:10,270 --> 00:57:08,270 really tell right 1230 00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:10,280 but yeah I mean it does look aerodynamic 1231 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:13,740 figure bird it doesn't have fatty tissue 1232 00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:16,050 like we do around the years as a very 1233 00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:19,710 small nasal capacity so I'm not going to 1234 00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:21,720 say it's a bird or anything but it'll be 1235 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:23,400 interesting to find out the bones are 1236 00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:26,130 hollow that was my other hollow that 1237 00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,720 would be Wow 1238 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:29,760 Jay that's my question after the break 1239 00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:31,170 okay thank you pal 1240 00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:34,260 sir Jay whiteners our guest from gaya 1241 00:57:39,260 --> 00:57:37,140 we're discussing the Nazca mummy well 1242 00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:39,270 we're calling it a mummy it's not it's 1243 00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:42,630 not wrapped in linen like Boris Karloff 1244 00:57:46,310 --> 00:57:44,760 mummy and we're actually going to talk 1245 00:57:47,810 --> 00:57:46,320 about all of that when we come back our 1246 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:47,820 guest Jay Widener I'm your host Jimmy 1247 00:57:50,359 --> 00:57:48,210 Church 1248 00:57:50,740 --> 00:57:50,369 this is fade 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1319 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,480 [Music] 1320 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:39,050 all right welcome back fade to black I'm 1321 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:40,770 your host immaturity our guest tonight J 1322 01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:44,010 Geithner J Widener Jake guy who rented 1323 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:48,630 that Jay Widener senior director of 1324 01:01:51,740 --> 01:01:51,090 content at Gaia TV that's where that 1325 01:01:54,170 --> 01:01:51,750 came from 1326 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:54,180 and we're talking about the Nazca mummy 1327 01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:56,370 J Gaiden ER there you go Jade's a new 1328 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:00,420 nickname I have your vaguely Jewish I 1329 01:02:06,740 --> 01:02:03,810 have a no idea where that Gabriel where 1330 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:06,750 is the mummy now is it safe is there a 1331 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:09,090 you know it would it would really be a 1332 01:02:14,690 --> 01:02:11,250 bummer to see this thing disappear or 1333 01:02:16,220 --> 01:02:14,700 something happen well so far it's safe 1334 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:16,230 and you're right we're all concerned 1335 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:19,890 about that but so far it's safe it's in 1336 01:02:26,260 --> 01:02:23,010 good hands the the Peruvian government's 1337 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:26,270 position on this what is their response 1338 01:02:33,260 --> 01:02:29,630 no response so far but of course 1339 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:33,270 anything that's pre-columbian ie was 1340 01:02:38,090 --> 01:02:35,490 here before Columbus and the 1341 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:38,100 carbon-dating surely shows that means 1342 01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:41,370 that this is a possession of the 1343 01:02:48,260 --> 01:02:44,790 Peruvian government so if they wanted to 1344 01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:48,270 step in they could they could and they 1345 01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:52,110 probably will how so what do you mean by 1346 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:54,660 that well I'm going to be sure there's 1347 01:03:02,180 --> 01:02:56,910 I'm sure they're aware of this situation 1348 01:03:04,790 --> 01:03:02,190 and that mummy is worth a lot of I means 1349 01:03:10,780 --> 01:03:04,800 with a lot to the Peruvian government I 1350 01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:10,790 mean just as a exhibit in a museum so I 1351 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:14,640 presume they're interested in and are 1352 01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:17,130 pursuing this story there is one thing 1353 01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:21,240 that I can't get out of my brain here if 1354 01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:24,510 this plays out right if this plays out a 1355 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:26,910 year from now we're looking back at this 1356 01:03:31,690 --> 01:03:29,490 and you know life has changed the world 1357 01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:31,700 has changed this thing plays out 1358 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:36,510 Nazca is the new Giza the tourism right 1359 01:03:43,610 --> 01:03:39,090 think I mean everybody's going to want 1360 01:03:45,980 --> 01:03:43,620 to go down and see this this area I mean 1361 01:03:48,660 --> 01:03:45,990 it could be a complete I'm not being 1362 01:03:51,809 --> 01:03:48,670 serious here a blow 1363 01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:51,819 you're saying that because I was just in 1364 01:03:57,059 --> 01:03:55,630 discussion today with someone I was 1365 01:04:00,030 --> 01:03:57,069 telling me that the Peruvian government 1366 01:04:06,030 --> 01:04:00,040 is actually very happy about all of this 1367 01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:06,040 and is uh as in fact approaching some 1368 01:04:14,329 --> 01:04:09,430 members of the teens for exactly that 1369 01:04:17,789 --> 01:04:14,339 reason to begin doing tours of Nazca now 1370 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:17,799 okay let's let's get back to this this 1371 01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:23,490 bone issue with the x-rays and for you 1372 01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,520 is when you first saw it when somebody 1373 01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:30,160 says fake I don't know why they would 1374 01:04:34,770 --> 01:04:32,710 suggest a fake skeleton that just 1375 01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:34,780 doesn't compute for me but that's that's 1376 01:04:41,069 --> 01:04:36,910 when I that's what they would obviously 1377 01:04:45,059 --> 01:04:41,079 be claiming here when you first saw the 1378 01:04:49,049 --> 01:04:45,069 x-rays and and the cat scans was there 1379 01:04:50,819 --> 01:04:49,059 what went through your mind well I mean 1380 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:50,829 I examine them very closely I pinned 1381 01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:52,960 them to a window with the Sun behind 1382 01:04:59,490 --> 01:04:56,079 them and I began looking at the 1383 01:05:02,450 --> 01:04:59,500 especially the neck risks anyplace where 1384 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:02,460 there's connections to look for fakery 1385 01:05:08,059 --> 01:05:03,790 jammed-up 1386 01:05:12,630 --> 01:05:08,069 a muscle bones in the wrong place 1387 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:12,640 possible plastic anything breaks in the 1388 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:16,930 tissue man I didn't find anything 1389 01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:20,170 and I've actually been through this many 1390 01:05:27,930 --> 01:05:23,849 many times I used to investigate crimes 1391 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,940 for up in the Pacific Northwest because 1392 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:30,160 I was so good at solving these things 1393 01:05:41,299 --> 01:05:35,770 and man I saw nothing and I saw an 1394 01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:41,309 intact x-ray of an intact body that 1395 01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:44,319 appeared to be somewhat different than a 1396 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:48,160 human a human now with this bill here 1397 01:05:54,030 --> 01:05:51,970 tonight now with the testing with the 1398 01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:54,040 carbon dating and and the other tissue 1399 01:05:58,380 --> 01:05:55,720 samples and you guys are now pursuing 1400 01:06:00,059 --> 01:05:58,390 DNA which were going to discuss next are 1401 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:00,069 you just closing to them where this 1402 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:02,170 material is coming from or 1403 01:06:07,010 --> 01:06:04,090 just handing them the material and 1404 01:06:11,850 --> 01:06:07,020 asking for results 1405 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:11,860 well we're handing them material that 1406 01:06:20,790 --> 01:06:15,730 tells them that this came from the rear 1407 01:06:24,810 --> 01:06:20,800 neck or underneath the right wrist that 1408 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:24,820 kind of thing but we're not saying you 1409 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:28,330 know we're what the creature is or 1410 01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:30,850 anything no okay and we are giving 1411 01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:33,100 directions as to where we took the 1412 01:06:37,710 --> 01:06:35,230 samples oh but they they don't have any 1413 01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:37,720 idea that it's a it could be an eighteen 1414 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:39,280 hundred year old mummy something that 1415 01:06:44,070 --> 01:06:42,250 would steer the results or conclusions 1416 01:06:46,380 --> 01:06:44,080 no okay 1417 01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:46,390 we would never contaminate the data like 1418 01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:47,560 that now 1419 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:52,000 what about blood no blood it's a mummy 1420 01:06:55,950 --> 01:06:53,530 Italy dehydrated 1421 01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:55,960 it's totally dehydrated so that what 1422 01:07:02,850 --> 01:06:58,570 about muscle tissue are there is there 1423 01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:02,860 any existing tissues involved where 1424 01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:05,260 there could be some kind of dried blood 1425 01:07:10,110 --> 01:07:06,550 sample taken 1426 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:10,120 oh yeah there's arteries and that's why 1427 01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:12,550 I know it's not a fake I mean as far as 1428 01:07:17,970 --> 01:07:14,590 the actual body right because you can 1429 01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:17,980 actually see the compressed arterial 1430 01:07:22,770 --> 01:07:20,620 structure right so there's arteries 1431 01:07:25,590 --> 01:07:22,780 blood was clearly running through 1432 01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:25,600 whatever this was so it's not a piece of 1433 01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:29,760 plastic it's not a 3d print job it's 1434 01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:33,520 whatever it is it lived and breathed and 1435 01:07:41,250 --> 01:07:37,110 walk now you know were the feet and 1436 01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:41,260 hands and the head added to this body 1437 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:44,950 somehow some way by a Leonardo da Vinci 1438 01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:48,610 living down in Peru who does this for a 1439 01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:50,470 hobby even though he's not going to 1440 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:54,000 nearly make enough money to pay for his 1441 01:07:59,700 --> 01:07:56,770 hoaxer ii yeah that could happen I 1442 01:08:03,480 --> 01:07:59,710 suppose there's a millionaire in Peru 1443 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:03,490 who just delights in creating skeletons 1444 01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:06,250 and then exoskeletons of placing perfect 1445 01:08:11,490 --> 01:08:09,190 skin over the top and everything yeah 1446 01:08:14,310 --> 01:08:11,500 that could happen there's a one out of a 1447 01:08:16,269 --> 01:08:14,320 thousand chance that there's a guy down 1448 01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:16,279 in Peru or somewhere else 1449 01:08:23,499 --> 01:08:20,480 who is doing this but I tell you I don't 1450 01:08:26,530 --> 01:08:23,509 see why they would be doing it they're 1451 01:08:28,570 --> 01:08:26,540 not making the money that the things are 1452 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:28,580 going to be making guarantees that I 1453 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:30,199 know what kind of money is being spent 1454 01:08:36,519 --> 01:08:34,400 here and it would never even possibly 1455 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:36,529 pay and I'm a person who actually worked 1456 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:38,690 in physical effects in Hollywood I know 1457 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:40,850 what it takes to make something like 1458 01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:44,690 this and I guarantee you that that mummy 1459 01:08:52,059 --> 01:08:48,710 would cost a bare minimum of $250,000 1460 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:52,069 and that guy is not going to make that 1461 01:08:58,300 --> 01:08:54,650 kind of money anywhere near it I have 1462 01:09:02,559 --> 01:08:58,310 had a lot of email sent to me about the 1463 01:09:05,559 --> 01:09:02,569 organs and that it was a part of the 1464 01:09:08,050 --> 01:09:05,569 mummification process in Peru to remove 1465 01:09:09,130 --> 01:09:08,060 the organs to clean them and then to put 1466 01:09:12,939 --> 01:09:09,140 them back in the body 1467 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:12,949 I want that clarified here these or this 1468 01:09:17,470 --> 01:09:15,410 this is intact the organs were not 1469 01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:17,480 removed and placed back in the body 1470 01:09:23,499 --> 01:09:21,350 correct I believe that is actually right 1471 01:09:27,939 --> 01:09:23,509 that's what the radiologist seems to be 1472 01:09:31,209 --> 01:09:27,949 saying yes so what about the orientation 1473 01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:31,219 of the organs is it the same as a human 1474 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:32,630 are the lungs in the same place the 1475 01:09:38,530 --> 01:09:35,810 spleen the kidneys the digestive cutting 1476 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:38,540 okay I can't tell you that that's the 1477 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:40,489 radiologist is looking at that right now 1478 01:09:46,180 --> 01:09:42,650 and we'll get a report soon that will be 1479 01:09:47,900 --> 01:09:46,190 probably the quick history part and okay 1480 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:47,910 man how I need you to speculate 1481 01:09:54,729 --> 01:09:51,130 [Laughter] 1482 01:09:57,670 --> 01:09:54,739 well my careers are the life and yes yes 1483 01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:57,680 so the but the organs have not been 1484 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:01,520 removed and therefore this is not a 1485 01:10:08,740 --> 01:10:06,050 mummy mummy this is a dead body let me 1486 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:08,750 clarify that right there's there's mummy 1487 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:11,570 there up there it's a mummy okay it's 1488 01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:16,130 not a mummy like in Egypt and in Egypt 1489 01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:18,680 they took the organs out and then they 1490 01:10:28,090 --> 01:10:22,190 wrap the money in a in strips of cloth 1491 01:10:30,140 --> 01:10:28,100 that had a dehydrated powder on it so 1492 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:30,150 that the skin would be hydrate 1493 01:10:37,340 --> 01:10:33,090 or it deteriorated and I'm talking about 1494 01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:37,350 Egypt right in / in Peru in the desert 1495 01:10:42,050 --> 01:10:39,510 in Peru which is the driest place on the 1496 01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:42,060 planet it's a half an inch of rain a 1497 01:10:48,919 --> 01:10:46,140 year if you can imagine that right that 1498 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:48,929 you don't have the same problems that 1499 01:10:54,590 --> 01:10:51,570 you have an Egypt would get six inches a 1500 01:10:57,220 --> 01:10:54,600 year and six inches as opposed to a half 1501 01:11:02,120 --> 01:10:57,230 an inch is quite a bit of difference so 1502 01:11:06,290 --> 01:11:02,130 in the desert in Peru you have you don't 1503 01:11:08,930 --> 01:11:06,300 have the your if you can dehydrate the 1504 01:11:11,419 --> 01:11:08,940 body fast enough you don't have to 1505 01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:11,429 remove the organs I don't think I say 1506 01:11:17,470 --> 01:11:15,060 because of the dryness it will just go 1507 01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:17,480 into stasis because there's no moisture 1508 01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:21,030 because anything to rot and I think that 1509 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:22,500 is what's going on here and that's the 1510 01:11:25,700 --> 01:11:24,449 only speculation you're going to get out 1511 01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:25,710 of me all night okay 1512 01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:29,070 well but no I've got one more for you 1513 01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:36,000 the face to me look so when you look at 1514 01:11:39,919 --> 01:11:37,800 the Egyptian mummies right you see the 1515 01:11:41,689 --> 01:11:39,929 lips have retracted and dried out you 1516 01:11:44,660 --> 01:11:41,699 see the teeth and it's all creepy 1517 01:11:47,149 --> 01:11:44,670 looking and and that black brown this 1518 01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:47,159 thing and I you know it's just it's it's 1519 01:11:54,890 --> 01:11:50,880 a creepy looking money here the the lips 1520 01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:54,900 the fate that I you know it seems full 1521 01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:57,810 and in an intact you can see the face of 1522 01:12:02,750 --> 01:11:59,520 this thing you can tell what it looked 1523 01:12:05,689 --> 01:12:02,760 like what do you make of that I would 1524 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:05,699 say that's exactly the reason why many 1525 01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:10,560 many good minds are going absolutely bat 1526 01:12:18,649 --> 01:12:14,640 crazy because they can't believe that 1527 01:12:20,959 --> 01:12:18,659 this mummy is so intact and in fact 1528 01:12:24,919 --> 01:12:20,969 that's the biggest problem that we face 1529 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:24,929 here that we we have a mummy that is the 1530 01:12:28,910 --> 01:12:26,010 most intact 1531 01:12:31,370 --> 01:12:28,920 mummy without a rapping in other words 1532 01:12:34,570 --> 01:12:31,380 you can see it's naked body her naked 1533 01:12:38,090 --> 01:12:34,580 body that I think we've ever seen and 1534 01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:38,100 that is actually causing I think the 1535 01:12:43,580 --> 01:12:40,409 biggest problems that we're facing with 1536 01:12:49,250 --> 01:12:43,590 coming to grips with with what this is 1537 01:12:52,430 --> 01:12:49,260 and again I got this on the on the 1538 01:12:56,210 --> 01:12:52,440 pristine dry environment of southern 1539 01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:56,220 Peru couples with the drying agent that 1540 01:13:02,720 --> 01:12:59,040 they put over this thing to cause the 1541 01:13:06,230 --> 01:13:02,730 skin to dehydrate so quickly that it 1542 01:13:09,290 --> 01:13:06,240 retained its form not perfectly it's 1543 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:09,300 definitely freeze-dried like all mummies 1544 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:12,180 but it is still for a mummy 1545 01:13:16,940 --> 01:13:14,970 it still has a remarkable form have you 1546 01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:16,950 touched it did you put on gloves and 1547 01:13:25,190 --> 01:13:23,190 touch it I did and I it was hard and I 1548 01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:25,200 thought you don't like plastic no no 1549 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:27,480 what I want to know I want to know how 1550 01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,510 did you trip man I would trip I mean it 1551 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:32,400 would freak me out to touch something 1552 01:13:37,490 --> 01:13:35,130 like that if you know I was talking to a 1553 01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:37,500 guy today probably somebody you should 1554 01:13:41,980 --> 01:13:40,140 have on your show Jack Kerry is his name 1555 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:41,990 he's a brilliant 1556 01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:44,610 cryptozoologist whom I've had on Gaia a 1557 01:13:48,980 --> 01:13:46,680 couple of times and become pretty good 1558 01:13:51,170 --> 01:13:48,990 friends with and Jack's a reasonable guy 1559 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:51,180 and he's all freaked out and just loves 1560 01:13:54,740 --> 01:13:53,010 this whole thing and I was telling him 1561 01:13:56,660 --> 01:13:54,750 you know the weirdest thing about this 1562 01:13:59,690 --> 01:13:56,670 whole thing is that you know my secret 1563 01:14:01,940 --> 01:13:59,700 hobby which I never really ever told 1564 01:14:05,090 --> 01:14:01,950 anybody about was that I'm really 1565 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:05,100 interested in cryptozoology but you know 1566 01:14:11,540 --> 01:14:07,290 everybody knows it you know into alchemy 1567 01:14:14,710 --> 01:14:11,550 and into secret space program and all 1568 01:14:16,730 --> 01:14:14,720 this other stuff and now here I am my 1569 01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:16,740 probably the most famous thing that's 1570 01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:18,420 ever going to happen to me and it's 1571 01:14:24,140 --> 01:14:21,600 associated with cryptozoology so it's 1572 01:14:25,900 --> 01:14:24,150 kind of a strange thing to you know be 1573 01:14:28,940 --> 01:14:25,910 one of the people that actually 1574 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:28,950 discovered one of these beings that have 1575 01:14:33,140 --> 01:14:31,290 only been rumored about throughout the 1576 01:14:36,590 --> 01:14:33,150 last two thousand three thousand years 1577 01:14:39,860 --> 01:14:36,600 of human history and to actually be 1578 01:14:42,350 --> 01:14:39,870 there to actually be one of the people 1579 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:42,360 to discover this thing it's a real honor 1580 01:14:46,770 --> 01:14:44,970 it really is now I want to talk about 1581 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:46,780 the 1582 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:53,770 want to talk about that white powder do 1583 01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:56,530 you guys have any idea what it is if I 1584 01:15:01,830 --> 01:14:58,719 keep hearing white powder right have you 1585 01:15:03,689 --> 01:15:01,840 guys tested it what's the pH level do 1586 01:15:07,649 --> 01:15:03,699 you have any idea what the chemical 1587 01:15:11,970 --> 01:15:07,659 makeup is of the white powder no but we 1588 01:15:13,799 --> 01:15:11,980 have a vial of it and we are sampling it 1589 01:15:17,490 --> 01:15:13,809 and we will get it out as soon as we 1590 01:15:20,250 --> 01:15:17,500 find out have you tasted it No snorted 1591 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:20,260 it that's an interesting question could 1592 01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:23,050 be cocaine yeah it's a really bad 1593 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:25,780 including a dehydrating material 1594 01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:29,050 actually so I don't know what it is you 1595 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:30,820 know people think that it's skin color 1596 01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:33,489 is white we can't say that we can't we 1597 01:15:37,649 --> 01:15:35,320 don't know what its skin color is we 1598 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:37,659 only know that the agent they put on 1599 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:39,130 caused it 1600 01:15:44,609 --> 01:15:42,610 to discolor in a light way so we have to 1601 01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:44,619 wait for all of these results to come in 1602 01:15:48,750 --> 01:15:46,150 yeah I'm not making just of the 1603 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:48,760 situation it's just what it I worry 1604 01:15:53,399 --> 01:15:51,280 about or what is the white powder it's 1605 01:15:54,629 --> 01:15:53,409 it's very very interesting you would 1606 01:15:57,029 --> 01:15:54,639 think that there would be an oral 1607 01:15:58,890 --> 01:15:57,039 tradition in Peru which is something 1608 01:16:00,450 --> 01:15:58,900 that Peru is severely lacking no written 1609 01:16:02,490 --> 01:16:00,460 language it you know nothing that goes 1610 01:16:04,799 --> 01:16:02,500 back that you don't have recipes and 1611 01:16:07,229 --> 01:16:04,809 formulas and they would I would 1612 01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,239 surprised that there isn't an oral 1613 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:09,520 tradition about what this white powder 1614 01:16:14,490 --> 01:16:12,010 you know is and how they went through 1615 01:16:17,010 --> 01:16:14,500 the process well I mean it would have to 1616 01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:17,020 be some kind of salt that would suck the 1617 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:20,980 fluids right out of the body right soon 1618 01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:24,130 as it was applied right um that's what 1619 01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:26,320 the what they were doing in Egypt right 1620 01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:28,510 when they put the bands of cloth they 1621 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:30,670 were like in this kind of liquefied salt 1622 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:33,130 and they would sucked uh because what 1623 01:16:35,970 --> 01:16:34,449 you want to do is you want to suck the 1624 01:16:38,459 --> 01:16:35,980 fluids out because that's what causes 1625 01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:38,469 the deterioration of the flesh 1626 01:16:43,950 --> 01:16:41,110 it's the fluids and so you want to suck 1627 01:16:47,549 --> 01:16:43,960 those out as fast as you can so the body 1628 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:47,559 is preserved right now in Egypt they 1629 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:51,489 were I mean if you read some of the 1630 01:16:56,970 --> 01:16:54,730 hieroglyphs literally which I try to do 1631 01:17:00,100 --> 01:16:56,980 I try not to put any interpretations on 1632 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:00,110 they literally say 1633 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:02,449 they were trying to preserve you know a 1634 01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:05,810 kind of what they called the cow which 1635 01:17:11,229 --> 01:17:09,199 is a physical part of the spirit right 1636 01:17:15,970 --> 01:17:11,239 but which could also be interpreted as a 1637 01:17:19,419 --> 01:17:15,980 DNA in other words as bad as the DNA has 1638 01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:19,429 deteriorated in the mummy that we found 1639 01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:21,380 in Peru or the mummies that are in Egypt 1640 01:17:28,780 --> 01:17:25,520 they still can be recombined it may take 1641 01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:28,790 a lot of work to recombine the DNA 1642 01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:31,040 because it's like imagine you had a 1643 01:17:36,850 --> 01:17:33,710 jigsaw puzzle and then somebody poured 1644 01:17:39,580 --> 01:17:36,860 like 40 gallons of water over your 1645 01:17:41,410 --> 01:17:39,590 jigsaw puzzle and sent it flailing in 1646 01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:41,420 you know a hundred different directions 1647 01:17:46,450 --> 01:17:44,239 and then you have to recombine those 1648 01:17:48,970 --> 01:17:46,460 pieces to figure out what the original 1649 01:17:50,919 --> 01:17:48,980 jigsaw puzzle was well that's kind of 1650 01:17:53,140 --> 01:17:50,929 what we're up against here with the 1651 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:53,150 mummy and I think you know we're going 1652 01:17:59,129 --> 01:17:56,570 to find that we're going to find many 1653 01:18:03,899 --> 01:17:59,139 surprises when this work gets done how 1654 01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:03,909 how did you determine that she was Maria 1655 01:18:09,970 --> 01:18:06,409 female Oh 1656 01:18:12,340 --> 01:18:09,980 initial DNA test came and and those came 1657 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:12,350 in and said that you know she was okay 1658 01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:15,770 so there wasn't anything physical on the 1659 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:19,280 outside no nothing okay in fact we could 1660 01:18:28,209 --> 01:18:22,730 not tell what the sexual as okay okay so 1661 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:28,219 it was through DNA testing and the when 1662 01:18:35,290 --> 01:18:33,170 you guys were approached and well how 1663 01:18:38,830 --> 01:18:35,300 did that happen how did you get the 1664 01:18:43,740 --> 01:18:38,840 phone call how did you guys get 1665 01:18:50,140 --> 01:18:46,959 originally we are producing a program 1666 01:18:51,879 --> 01:18:50,150 which will be out in a few months which 1667 01:18:54,879 --> 01:18:51,889 is only tentatively titled right now 1668 01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:54,889 ancient civilization probably will have 1669 01:19:02,320 --> 01:18:57,770 another title but it's a really in-depth 1670 01:19:05,109 --> 01:19:02,330 examination of ancient beliefs about 1671 01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:05,119 what we really were thousands of years 1672 01:19:13,349 --> 01:19:09,670 ago and through that investigation we 1673 01:19:17,549 --> 01:19:13,359 met Jaime Hassan 1674 01:19:20,429 --> 01:19:17,559 and he told us about the Terry zsa mean 1675 01:19:24,779 --> 01:19:20,439 and Terry Janine is a Frenchman who 1676 01:19:27,839 --> 01:19:24,789 lives in cusco and has an institute 1677 01:19:32,489 --> 01:19:27,849 called the incar institute he's a great 1678 01:19:34,919 --> 01:19:32,499 guy I really liked Terry I could not 1679 01:19:37,349 --> 01:19:34,929 speak English but he spoke pretty good 1680 01:19:39,419 --> 01:19:37,359 Spanish so I got to talk to him in 1681 01:19:41,549 --> 01:19:39,429 Spanish because my French is abysmal 1682 01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:41,559 even though I go to France all the time 1683 01:19:49,769 --> 01:19:46,510 right and he he kind of told us a whole 1684 01:19:51,989 --> 01:19:49,779 story of how these bodies were found and 1685 01:19:54,809 --> 01:19:51,999 and the whole thing and that story is 1686 01:19:58,679 --> 01:19:54,819 coming out on updates on Gaia over the 1687 01:20:00,539 --> 01:19:58,689 next few days in fact and Terry is the 1688 01:20:03,209 --> 01:20:00,549 linchpin you know kind of in this whole 1689 01:20:05,149 --> 01:20:03,219 thing he's um he knows the people that 1690 01:20:08,879 --> 01:20:05,159 have the bodies he knows us 1691 01:20:11,699 --> 01:20:08,889 he's like Indiana Jones kind of guy like 1692 01:20:14,279 --> 01:20:11,709 I am so we kind of hit it off we've been 1693 01:20:19,259 --> 01:20:14,289 everywhere same places all around the 1694 01:20:22,979 --> 01:20:19,269 world and you know we're kind of ready 1695 01:20:27,269 --> 01:20:22,989 to go into the mouth of the beast no 1696 01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:27,279 matter what so I think hopefully Terry 1697 01:20:32,729 --> 01:20:30,729 will always cooperate with us and come 1698 01:20:35,309 --> 01:20:32,739 forward and tell us everything he knows 1699 01:20:38,729 --> 01:20:35,319 because I think Terry knows a lot more 1700 01:20:40,109 --> 01:20:38,739 than he's saying at the moment and he's 1701 01:20:41,969 --> 01:20:40,119 told me things in private so I think 1702 01:20:45,269 --> 01:20:41,979 that I am pretty sure on these 1703 01:20:47,129 --> 01:20:45,279 statements so I think you know a lot of 1704 01:20:51,229 --> 01:20:47,139 things are going to break loose over the 1705 01:20:54,119 --> 01:20:51,239 next few months and Terry's you mean the 1706 01:20:56,429 --> 01:20:54,129 freshman who really started this whole 1707 01:20:59,129 --> 01:20:56,439 thing deserves not only credit for 1708 01:21:01,229 --> 01:20:59,139 finding and helping find it but then 1709 01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:01,239 reaching out to other people like Jaime 1710 01:21:07,529 --> 01:21:04,119 Masson and me and getting the word out 1711 01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,539 what's the body bodies and we'll talk 1712 01:21:12,209 --> 01:21:09,760 more about this after the break but was 1713 01:21:16,309 --> 01:21:12,219 it found in a tomb in a cave was it 1714 01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:16,319 buried what was what was going on there 1715 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:26,970 oh my head I can't wait you know you 1716 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:29,410 might you might get a little uh a little 1717 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:31,330 crack the next time I see you now 1718 01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:39,010 seriously tomb cave buried because I've 1719 01:21:44,910 --> 01:21:42,160 never been there I can't say and so I 1720 01:21:46,590 --> 01:21:44,920 will you know you have to understand 1721 01:21:49,410 --> 01:21:46,600 that I'm not going to say something that 1722 01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:49,420 I don't know it was underneath the earth 1723 01:21:58,380 --> 01:21:52,240 that's all I will say okay was there 1724 01:21:59,460 --> 01:21:58,390 anything marking this area you know then 1725 01:22:01,980 --> 01:21:59,470 there couldn't tell you 1726 01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:01,990 so no stone markers nothing with names 1727 01:22:06,980 --> 01:22:04,510 on it you know I I don't know I've never 1728 01:22:16,710 --> 01:22:06,990 been there if I can tell you okay 1729 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:16,720 alright yeah what were you told that is 1730 01:22:22,620 --> 01:22:20,770 funny well hopefully one day Jimmy you 1731 01:22:24,930 --> 01:22:22,630 and I in public will be able to talk 1732 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:24,940 about what I've been told do you feel 1733 01:22:30,780 --> 01:22:27,130 comfortable about what you were told I 1734 01:22:33,060 --> 01:22:30,790 do I feel very comfortable it fits in 1735 01:22:37,460 --> 01:22:33,070 with what I have in my own researches 1736 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:37,470 has found in my own investigations and 1737 01:22:42,990 --> 01:22:40,330 what I've been told by like I think I 1738 01:22:46,530 --> 01:22:43,000 told you on coast I will go a little way 1739 01:22:49,050 --> 01:22:46,540 here and if you tune in to Gaia over the 1740 01:22:52,770 --> 01:22:49,060 next few months are actually just few 1741 01:22:58,140 --> 01:22:52,780 weeks many many insiders are being 1742 01:23:00,720 --> 01:22:58,150 interviewed about interactions with 1743 01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:00,730 possible creatures like we're discussing 1744 01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:04,450 here tonight and so I mean there's much 1745 01:23:08,610 --> 01:23:06,420 information which is about to unfold 1746 01:23:10,740 --> 01:23:08,620 about all of this 1747 01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:10,750 and I just want to be careful because I 1748 01:23:17,630 --> 01:23:13,390 don't want to speculate and ruin what is 1749 01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:17,640 you know the scientific method and so 1750 01:23:23,250 --> 01:23:21,040 once we get this going I will reveal all 1751 01:23:27,150 --> 01:23:23,260 I promise is the cross of Hendaye 1752 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:27,160 involved just kidding Athena's now I got 1753 01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:29,650 you that's what you get that's what you 1754 01:23:36,420 --> 01:23:32,110 get right there eight with the with the 1755 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:36,430 DNA if the DNA can prove you know the 1756 01:23:38,610 --> 01:23:36,970 sex 1757 01:23:43,230 --> 01:23:38,620 right and in this case that it's female 1758 01:23:46,380 --> 01:23:43,240 is it suggesting that a large chunk of 1759 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:46,390 this DNA is human which would you is is 1760 01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:49,810 that speculation at this point I mean I 1761 01:23:56,340 --> 01:23:53,760 would think that that a logical 1762 01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,350 scientific rational person might derive 1763 01:24:01,830 --> 01:23:58,480 that conclusion yeah yeah yeah it would 1764 01:24:04,530 --> 01:24:01,840 make sense now what about the 1765 01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:04,540 possibility of and I'm sure that you 1766 01:24:11,420 --> 01:24:07,630 talked to some anthropologists and and 1767 01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:11,430 and medical doctors about this just a 1768 01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:14,350 rare human deformity of the hands and 1769 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:18,640 feet that for three fingers and I'm the 1770 01:24:24,620 --> 01:24:21,010 hands and feet is there a possibility of 1771 01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:24,630 that there and this is just a one-off uh 1772 01:24:31,470 --> 01:24:28,000 I suppose there's a one in a million or 1773 01:24:33,470 --> 01:24:31,480 two or three million chance that this 1774 01:24:35,850 --> 01:24:33,480 weird creature could have been born yeah 1775 01:24:40,850 --> 01:24:35,860 there's no doubt about it 1776 01:24:44,190 --> 01:24:40,860 early tests say that's not true 1777 01:24:47,460 --> 01:24:44,200 examination of the hands and feet of it 1778 01:24:50,490 --> 01:24:47,470 and several other other mummies found in 1779 01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:50,500 the same location would seem to say no 1780 01:24:59,880 --> 01:24:53,980 that this is a normal occurrence among 1781 01:25:06,900 --> 01:24:59,890 creatures of this sort and also there is 1782 01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:06,910 also evidence in artwork found all over 1783 01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:10,560 South America of three fingered beings 1784 01:25:21,930 --> 01:25:15,520 so now I don't think so i think that 1785 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:21,940 there's overwhelming evidence that that 1786 01:25:28,890 --> 01:25:25,810 people in the past had encounters with 1787 01:25:34,110 --> 01:25:28,900 three fingered beings in south america 1788 01:25:36,060 --> 01:25:34,120 and also in sri lanka there is a temple 1789 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:36,070 I'm going to forget the name at the 1790 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:38,610 moment there's a temple in Sri Lanka 1791 01:25:43,770 --> 01:25:41,170 where the front 1792 01:25:46,770 --> 01:25:43,780 it's a thousands and thousands of years 1793 01:25:48,540 --> 01:25:46,780 old temple up a high in a mountain you 1794 01:25:50,410 --> 01:25:48,550 have to climb up these stairs to get to 1795 01:25:57,390 --> 01:25:50,420 it but the opening 1796 01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:57,400 Gate has to three-fingered claw-like 1797 01:26:04,090 --> 01:26:01,040 figurines on each side of the main gate 1798 01:26:07,930 --> 01:26:04,100 as you walk in and there's evidence like 1799 01:26:12,970 --> 01:26:07,940 this mounting because I am doing the 1800 01:26:17,790 --> 01:26:12,980 research mounting daily we excuse me we 1801 01:26:21,150 --> 01:26:17,800 are daily finding artwork and 1802 01:26:23,709 --> 01:26:21,160 pictographs all over the world of 1803 01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,719 three-fingered beings now we're going to 1804 01:26:27,250 --> 01:26:25,520 take a break right here J when we come 1805 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:27,260 back we're going to talk a little bit 1806 01:26:33,729 --> 01:26:30,530 about the other mummies that have been 1807 01:26:35,850 --> 01:26:33,739 found we need to discuss that some of it 1808 01:26:39,459 --> 01:26:35,860 has been disclosed some of it is rumor 1809 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:39,469 some of it has been extrapolated out of 1810 01:26:44,290 --> 01:26:42,530 other videos that you have presented so 1811 01:26:46,750 --> 01:26:44,300 we need to kind of address some of this 1812 01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:46,760 in a more direct fashion and we'll do 1813 01:26:50,350 --> 01:26:49,040 that right after the break and I got to 1814 01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:50,360 tell you Twitter is lighting up right 1815 01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:53,000 now J and everybody is very appreciative 1816 01:26:56,770 --> 01:26:55,310 of you taking the time to come out and 1817 01:26:59,740 --> 01:26:56,780 answer these questions tonight as 1818 01:27:01,150 --> 01:26:59,750 difficult as it may be but this is some 1819 01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:01,160 of the most important news maybe in 1820 01:27:04,689 --> 01:27:02,960 human history this is fade to black our 1821 01:27:05,950 --> 01:27:04,699 guest tonight J Widener 1822 01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:05,960 I'm your host Jimmy Church we'll be 1823 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:21,189 [Music] 1824 01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:24,399 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1825 01:27:29,899 --> 01:27:27,440 you're listening to paint and black 1826 01:27:32,419 --> 01:27:29,909 always on the edge of the hottest 1827 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:32,429 alternative talk killing church with 1828 01:27:43,550 --> 01:27:40,689 [Applause] 1829 01:27:45,410 --> 01:27:43,560 people on the better case which everyone 1830 01:27:53,209 --> 01:27:45,420 of 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01:30:57,140 --> 01:31:35,089 [Music] 1900 01:31:40,890 --> 01:31:37,439 all right welcome back beta black our 1901 01:31:44,819 --> 01:31:40,900 guest tonight J Geithner J Widener 1902 01:31:47,819 --> 01:31:44,829 he's here senior director of content for 1903 01:31:49,799 --> 01:31:47,829 guy TV and guy has released a video 1904 01:31:52,220 --> 01:31:49,809 report with the three-finger three-toed 1905 01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:52,230 mummy it was discovered in Nazca Peru 1906 01:32:00,689 --> 01:31:57,610 it's up to about 60 million views now J 1907 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:00,699 when when you hear those kind of numbers 1908 01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:02,530 thrown around right it's one thing to 1909 01:32:07,919 --> 01:32:05,800 say 1 million that's enough you know now 1910 01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:07,929 we're talking about tens of millions of 1911 01:32:14,459 --> 01:32:11,260 views it also suggests that it's a large 1912 01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:14,469 chunk of people outside of the 1913 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:17,199 paranormal community that is also 1914 01:32:24,029 --> 01:32:21,210 looking at this does that surprise you 1915 01:32:27,660 --> 01:32:24,039 very much so and I just want to 1916 01:32:30,089 --> 01:32:27,670 apologize to the 60 million people that 1917 01:32:33,810 --> 01:32:30,099 you have to look at my face you know in 1918 01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:33,820 these videos but hey somebody had to go 1919 01:32:38,250 --> 01:32:36,369 down there and do the dirty work so no 1920 01:32:42,270 --> 01:32:38,260 I'm not surprised actually at all I 1921 01:32:46,319 --> 01:32:42,280 think well I think I've actually I think 1922 01:32:47,729 --> 01:32:46,329 I that for census started that I knew 1923 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:47,739 this was going to be huge 1924 01:32:53,810 --> 01:32:51,730 and you know because I've been involved 1925 01:32:55,859 --> 01:32:53,820 in this kind of work for a long time and 1926 01:32:59,220 --> 01:32:55,869 because I knew we were doing the job 1927 01:33:02,129 --> 01:32:59,230 right I think that you know we've been 1928 01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:02,139 covered by Fox I think the New York 1929 01:33:08,189 --> 01:33:04,780 Times is going to cover us so I think 1930 01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:08,199 actually mainstream media is starting to 1931 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:09,670 get worried and they realize they have 1932 01:33:14,489 --> 01:33:11,650 to start covering it yeah they have to 1933 01:33:16,859 --> 01:33:14,499 they can't ignore it they can and I'm 1934 01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:16,869 excited I'm excited about that part of 1935 01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:18,880 it too you know so we can sit back and 1936 01:33:25,140 --> 01:33:23,110 well also then once the mainstream media 1937 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:25,150 grabs ahold of it and of course destroys 1938 01:33:32,489 --> 01:33:29,530 it you know but the the schools the 1939 01:33:34,739 --> 01:33:32,499 universities the other historians around 1940 01:33:36,779 --> 01:33:34,749 the world the skeptics pass enix will 1941 01:33:38,609 --> 01:33:36,789 have to sit up and respond to as well 1942 01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:38,619 and take notice and that's the part that 1943 01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:41,920 I'm looking forward to I did yeah I did 1944 01:33:48,060 --> 01:33:44,729 want to ask you about this Jaime was on 1945 01:33:48,310 --> 01:33:48,070 Carol rosin show last week and I'm going 1946 01:33:51,970 --> 01:33:48,320 to 1947 01:33:53,830 --> 01:33:51,980 about Carol props for that but and she's 1948 01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:53,840 probably listening now hello Carol and 1949 01:33:58,689 --> 01:33:55,489 she's an old friend of ours so there you 1950 01:34:02,950 --> 01:33:58,699 go but Dave hair yo girl absolutely and 1951 01:34:05,530 --> 01:34:02,960 he said on the show that and he said 1952 01:34:07,959 --> 01:34:05,540 this in heinie speak so but I definitely 1953 01:34:10,180 --> 01:34:07,969 sat up and listened a little bit closer 1954 01:34:14,830 --> 01:34:10,190 to the speakers when he said that there 1955 01:34:22,569 --> 01:34:14,840 was a couple of other bodies recovered 1956 01:34:24,729 --> 01:34:22,579 that appeared to be of a robot you know 1957 01:34:27,129 --> 01:34:24,739 something something attached or 1958 01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:27,139 assembled with this now what does that 1959 01:34:30,700 --> 01:34:29,840 even mean I'm picturing the Six Million 1960 01:34:33,609 --> 01:34:30,710 Dollar Man 1961 01:34:37,089 --> 01:34:33,619 what was he alluding to and can you 1962 01:34:39,310 --> 01:34:37,099 comment on that well the only thing I 1963 01:34:45,129 --> 01:34:39,320 can think of is that he's talking about 1964 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:45,139 and I may be wrong is that one of the 1965 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:49,730 smaller bodies that we saw at Carey Show 1966 01:35:01,359 --> 01:34:56,650 means place in Cuzco did have this odd 1967 01:35:07,180 --> 01:35:01,369 maybe it's metallic some kind of device 1968 01:35:09,870 --> 01:35:07,190 on her chest and it may have been 1969 01:35:14,379 --> 01:35:09,880 decorative it may have been ritualistic 1970 01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,389 some people say that maybe she broke her 1971 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:17,360 rib cage somehow and it was designed to 1972 01:35:25,419 --> 01:35:21,650 be like a you know brace to put her rib 1973 01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:25,429 cage back together we don't know but 1974 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:28,730 definitely it shows that they know how 1975 01:35:36,419 --> 01:35:32,690 to work things and that is a culture and 1976 01:35:43,359 --> 01:35:36,429 it's a culture that understands either 1977 01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:43,369 decorative fashion or a medical if it's 1978 01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:46,159 medical that's even more amazing because 1979 01:35:52,919 --> 01:35:47,690 that means they understand how to repair 1980 01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:52,929 bones so yeah there's this very strange 1981 01:36:00,189 --> 01:35:57,110 apparatus attached to the female smaller 1982 01:36:03,250 --> 01:36:00,199 body Mummy's chest 1983 01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:03,260 and the other there are two other 1984 01:36:10,810 --> 01:36:06,310 smaller bodies there and I want you to 1985 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:10,820 expand on this a little bit that also 1986 01:36:16,860 --> 01:36:12,770 have three fingers and three toes 1987 01:36:20,709 --> 01:36:16,870 correct yes but they are they less 1988 01:36:22,090 --> 01:36:20,719 humanoid and man is you know what that's 1989 01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:22,100 the right question that's the right 1990 01:36:25,450 --> 01:36:24,560 quest are the question is you're right 1991 01:36:28,810 --> 01:36:25,460 you're on the right track 1992 01:36:32,770 --> 01:36:28,820 the question is okay so a forensic 1993 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:32,780 biologist from Mexico and our medical 1994 01:36:43,180 --> 01:36:38,530 doctor from Russia both agreed that the 1995 01:36:46,689 --> 01:36:43,190 little creature that we saw in Cusco was 1996 01:36:50,380 --> 01:36:46,699 not the same as the bigger creature that 1997 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:50,390 we saw in Nazca and that the difference 1998 01:36:58,120 --> 01:36:55,090 not only in height but in some bodily 1999 01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:58,130 formations now they both had three toes 2000 01:37:04,419 --> 01:37:01,280 three fingers that kind of thing and 2001 01:37:07,330 --> 01:37:04,429 they look the same kind of but not not 2002 01:37:11,919 --> 01:37:07,340 quite the same in height but the figure 2003 01:37:15,370 --> 01:37:11,929 that we saw and x-rayed in Nazca I mean 2004 01:37:18,970 --> 01:37:15,380 in Cusco excuse me in Cusco it did not 2005 01:37:23,050 --> 01:37:18,980 have the split forearm that the creature 2006 01:37:27,310 --> 01:37:23,060 in Nazca had and that's very very 2007 01:37:30,580 --> 01:37:27,320 important because only mammals only 2008 01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:30,590 human eyes have the split forearm right 2009 01:37:37,090 --> 01:37:33,199 it allows us to be very ambidextrous 2010 01:37:40,930 --> 01:37:37,100 with our wrist so we can play guitar and 2011 01:37:44,530 --> 01:37:40,940 build houses and Golden Gate Bridge or 2012 01:37:48,250 --> 01:37:44,540 whatever but the creature the smaller 2013 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:48,260 creature did not have that and so that 2014 01:37:56,500 --> 01:37:51,290 would indicate that it is not a mammal 2015 01:37:59,260 --> 01:37:56,510 it is probably you know accreta well 2016 01:38:01,720 --> 01:37:59,270 animals that have no split four are more 2017 01:38:04,090 --> 01:38:01,730 usually reptiles so I mean I'm not 2018 01:38:06,910 --> 01:38:04,100 saying it's a reptile we don't know we 2019 01:38:10,959 --> 01:38:06,920 haven't done tissue samples on it but 2020 01:38:13,990 --> 01:38:10,969 you know when we do hopefully we'll find 2021 01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:14,000 out the truth the 2022 01:38:19,630 --> 01:38:17,330 the suggestion with that would be are we 2023 01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:19,640 talking about a biped now or are we 2024 01:38:24,190 --> 01:38:20,690 talking about something that maybe 2025 01:38:28,270 --> 01:38:24,200 walked on all fours and when I look at 2026 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:28,280 the Nazca mummy the arms are really 2027 01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:30,770 really long and the feet and hands 2028 01:38:37,630 --> 01:38:34,130 nearly match is there a possibility that 2029 01:38:39,580 --> 01:38:37,640 the Nazca mummy may be walked on all 2030 01:38:41,970 --> 01:38:39,590 fours do you see where I'm going with 2031 01:38:47,170 --> 01:38:41,980 this that's what my eyes are telling me 2032 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:47,180 well it would seem to me that it could 2033 01:38:52,150 --> 01:38:49,850 do both right it could go on all fours 2034 01:38:55,570 --> 01:38:52,160 and it could walk upright the same with 2035 01:38:58,450 --> 01:38:55,580 the creatures found in Cusco I mean not 2036 01:39:00,640 --> 01:38:58,460 found in Cusco that we saw in Cusco yeah 2037 01:39:02,950 --> 01:39:00,650 be careful with my language here they 2038 01:39:05,860 --> 01:39:02,960 were all found in the same place but the 2039 01:39:08,050 --> 01:39:05,870 creatures that we saw in Cusco we're 2040 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:08,060 definitely upright but yeah they could 2041 01:39:15,370 --> 01:39:12,530 go out first I'll tell you the Maria the 2042 01:39:18,850 --> 01:39:15,380 creature we saw in Nazca I mean I can 2043 01:39:22,090 --> 01:39:18,860 imagine how that critter could crawl 2044 01:39:26,050 --> 01:39:22,100 around on cliffs and on trees right 2045 01:39:28,180 --> 01:39:26,060 things yes I mean this thing you know it 2046 01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:28,190 could probably travel 30 or 40 miles an 2047 01:39:33,490 --> 01:39:31,520 hour on a cliff because a Justus 2048 01:39:37,300 --> 01:39:33,500 gripping it has so many knuckles and 2049 01:39:40,060 --> 01:39:37,310 it's gripping ability I don't know it's 2050 01:39:43,870 --> 01:39:40,070 amazing to me and I would love to see it 2051 01:39:47,470 --> 01:39:43,880 play piano or guitar I mean it stretch 2052 01:39:48,250 --> 01:39:47,480 yes yes across the octaves has to just 2053 01:39:52,090 --> 01:39:48,260 be amazing 2054 01:39:54,580 --> 01:39:52,100 it could I was going to crack a bad joke 2055 01:39:59,500 --> 01:39:54,590 about working the factory and assembling 2056 01:40:03,400 --> 01:39:59,510 a little cell phones in China okay now 2057 01:40:08,500 --> 01:40:03,410 what about the location of all of these 2058 01:40:11,770 --> 01:40:08,510 mummies were they found together Jay as 2059 01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:11,780 far as I know yes in the same tomb that 2060 01:40:15,310 --> 01:40:13,130 we were talking about earlier 2061 01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:15,320 I don't know this material was 2062 01:40:20,380 --> 01:40:18,170 underground okay all right so they were 2063 01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:20,390 all found when they found at the same 2064 01:40:25,330 --> 01:40:23,440 time as they made the discovery 2065 01:40:26,890 --> 01:40:25,340 obviously we're talking about the same 2066 01:40:27,550 --> 01:40:26,900 location but were they found at the same 2067 01:40:30,430 --> 01:40:27,560 time 2068 01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:30,440 I wasn't there I can't tell you okay I 2069 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:33,710 wasn't part of the discovery team so I'm 2070 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:37,130 I I've heard great stories about the 2071 01:40:42,010 --> 01:40:39,050 discovery and one day I hope to relate 2072 01:40:44,980 --> 01:40:42,020 them to you because they're amazing 2073 01:40:47,500 --> 01:40:44,990 hair-raising stories that deserve to be 2074 01:40:49,780 --> 01:40:47,510 told and I think they will be told 2075 01:40:55,090 --> 01:40:49,790 probably sooner than later but right now 2076 01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:55,100 I can't tell them but definitely there's 2077 01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,170 a very legendary 2078 01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:00,320 story to be told about the initial 2079 01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:01,250 discovery yes 2080 01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:07,040 so was it a buried alien spaceship that 2081 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:12,050 I can definitely say no oh man okay all 2082 01:41:15,850 --> 01:41:13,850 right all right you know I'm just going 2083 01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:15,860 out on a limb there but I know it's 2084 01:41:22,090 --> 01:41:18,080 going up well what was that movie uh 2085 01:41:25,330 --> 01:41:22,100 what was it ten thousand million BC what 2086 01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:25,340 that Crowe yeah great very great movie 2087 01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:28,070 Rob the spaceship London Underground 2088 01:41:37,900 --> 01:41:34,400 right yes on Hobbs end ed right right 2089 01:41:40,930 --> 01:41:37,910 right right yeah which Red Devils end 2090 01:41:43,660 --> 01:41:40,940 and because the devil existed on that 2091 01:41:46,150 --> 01:41:43,670 end in the ancient times and then they 2092 01:41:49,900 --> 01:41:46,160 went down and they found that there were 2093 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:49,910 these ancient alien bodies that had 2094 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:52,610 really conquered the earth at one time 2095 01:42:00,370 --> 01:41:56,330 great movie yeah great movie I saw that 2096 01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:00,380 movie uh probably 1970 black and white 2097 01:42:05,980 --> 01:42:03,830 little TV I'm seven years old nightmares 2098 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:05,990 for about a year and a half that would 2099 01:42:10,330 --> 01:42:08,570 be a freaked great now you might have to 2100 01:42:11,860 --> 01:42:10,340 watch they had a device which let them 2101 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:11,870 see what they looked like on their own 2102 01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:15,050 planet yes right so yeah and that would 2103 01:42:19,150 --> 01:42:17,600 be cool to find and I'm gonna watch that 2104 01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:19,160 movie after the show tonight I got to 2105 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:21,110 tell read about it I think I will too 2106 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:24,410 I got to dig that one up so what's the 2107 01:42:31,450 --> 01:42:28,610 next process here the DNA testing how 2108 01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:31,460 far along are we with that and when can 2109 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:35,210 we start to expect to see results well I 2110 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:37,610 gotta be honest with you DNA testing is 2111 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:39,130 the longest 2112 01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:41,650 ss of all the things that we're doing I 2113 01:42:48,899 --> 01:42:45,730 would hope that we'd have something say 2114 01:42:49,950 --> 01:42:48,909 three to six months from now but it may 2115 01:42:53,070 --> 01:42:49,960 be longer 2116 01:42:56,879 --> 01:42:53,080 like I say recover recombining DNA is a 2117 01:43:01,290 --> 01:42:56,889 very difficult job and we want to do it 2118 01:43:05,220 --> 01:43:01,300 right we're also going to do we're also 2119 01:43:07,290 --> 01:43:05,230 going to do mitochondrial DNA so because 2120 01:43:09,570 --> 01:43:07,300 it's a female we can take the 2121 01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:09,580 mitochondrial and take it all the way 2122 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:12,400 back and show you how far ago 2123 01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:15,850 this creature actually originated just 2124 01:43:22,740 --> 01:43:19,150 like we can take human DNA and show that 2125 01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:22,750 we originated about 250,000 years ago 2126 01:43:27,090 --> 01:43:25,449 give or take a hundred thousand years we 2127 01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:27,100 can do the same thing with Maria now 2128 01:43:30,510 --> 01:43:29,110 that we know that she's a female so 2129 01:43:34,050 --> 01:43:30,520 we're going to do that but that will 2130 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:34,060 take even longer but again just think 2131 01:43:39,060 --> 01:43:35,650 about how lucky we are to be able to 2132 01:43:40,830 --> 01:43:39,070 live through a time period where you 2133 01:43:42,780 --> 01:43:40,840 know these things are going to unfold in 2134 01:43:45,660 --> 01:43:42,790 front of our eyes and all you have to do 2135 01:43:48,540 --> 01:43:45,670 is like go to Gaia or Coast or Jimmy 2136 01:43:50,729 --> 01:43:48,550 Church and find out all this stuff and I 2137 01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:50,739 mean wow what a great world this is 2138 01:43:56,729 --> 01:43:53,440 somebody just posted native alien just 2139 01:44:01,620 --> 01:43:56,739 posted in Twitter great question here or 2140 01:44:04,290 --> 01:44:01,630 a statement on one of on one x-ray the 2141 01:44:06,930 --> 01:44:04,300 one finger looks like it has calluses 2142 01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:06,940 like it might have been used as a thumb 2143 01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:10,000 I noticed that same thing Jay what do 2144 01:44:15,689 --> 01:44:11,590 you what do you think about that are 2145 01:44:18,090 --> 01:44:15,699 there three thumbs here right dick yeah 2146 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:18,100 you know this is the thing I don't want 2147 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:20,170 to speculate but I did notice that same 2148 01:44:26,129 --> 01:44:23,650 thing as a guitar player I don't have 2149 01:44:30,450 --> 01:44:26,139 calluses on my thumbs but I got them on 2150 01:44:33,629 --> 01:44:30,460 my first three fingers and I'm sure that 2151 01:44:35,879 --> 01:44:33,639 when I die and they x-ray me and the cat 2152 01:44:37,740 --> 01:44:35,889 scan me they're going to see all this 2153 01:44:40,649 --> 01:44:37,750 guy did something with his fingers and 2154 01:44:43,169 --> 01:44:40,659 that's what I did and yeah it doesn't 2155 01:44:47,550 --> 01:44:43,179 look like that and I you know I would 2156 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:47,560 suggest that with those knuckles that 2157 01:44:52,660 --> 01:44:50,290 this thing may be able and speculating 2158 01:44:55,180 --> 01:44:52,670 may be able to our 2159 01:44:57,010 --> 01:44:55,190 tick you late those fingers into 2160 01:44:58,330 --> 01:44:57,020 positions that you and I can't even 2161 01:45:01,570 --> 01:44:58,340 imagine that's right 2162 01:45:03,580 --> 01:45:01,580 in other words they could all be that 2163 01:45:05,919 --> 01:45:03,590 they may be able and we'll find this out 2164 01:45:10,060 --> 01:45:05,929 by the way through a testing of those 2165 01:45:11,950 --> 01:45:10,070 knuckles and we will do that whether 2166 01:45:15,550 --> 01:45:11,960 they could move those things at right 2167 01:45:18,820 --> 01:45:15,560 angles and backwards and forwards if if 2168 01:45:21,250 --> 01:45:18,830 that is true and some insiders have told 2169 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:21,260 me that that is true if that is true 2170 01:45:29,530 --> 01:45:26,210 then these critters had four highly 2171 01:45:32,050 --> 01:45:29,540 articulated hands right right right 2172 01:45:34,930 --> 01:45:32,060 right there's no difference between the 2173 01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:34,940 hands and feet in this case yeah and if 2174 01:45:40,870 --> 01:45:37,760 we then take the leap and say that they 2175 01:45:43,570 --> 01:45:40,880 can articulate those toes and fingers in 2176 01:45:47,919 --> 01:45:43,580 ways that we can't even imagine with our 2177 01:45:50,890 --> 01:45:47,929 own hands then we've got a critter that 2178 01:45:53,020 --> 01:45:50,900 is could be highly technical somebody 2179 01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:53,030 just wanted me to ask you could the 2180 01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,510 white powder be monatomic gold it could 2181 01:46:02,310 --> 01:45:58,960 be I was actually thinking that myself 2182 01:46:05,650 --> 01:46:02,320 again the monatomic gold is a 2183 01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:05,660 dehydrating source and I know because I 2184 01:46:10,540 --> 01:46:08,239 took it for three straight months and I 2185 01:46:13,630 --> 01:46:10,550 had to drink so much water well I took 2186 01:46:15,970 --> 01:46:13,640 it that I you know just be hydrating all 2187 01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:15,980 the time so yeah it could be I mean we 2188 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:18,110 know that a lot of the Egyptian tombs 2189 01:46:23,470 --> 01:46:20,890 had a lot of this white powder in it and 2190 01:46:26,110 --> 01:46:23,480 but we'll find out we're testing it and 2191 01:46:30,010 --> 01:46:26,120 we'll be able to report we hung with 2192 01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:30,020 monatomic powder is that it changes its 2193 01:46:36,220 --> 01:46:33,410 a molecular composition a kind of a 2194 01:46:38,620 --> 01:46:36,230 consistent basis so we could test it 2195 01:46:41,380 --> 01:46:38,630 it'll turn out to be you know one 2196 01:46:42,669 --> 01:46:41,390 chemical and then later we test it turns 2197 01:46:44,620 --> 01:46:42,679 out to be another chemical as you 2198 01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:44,630 probably know now we're going to get to 2199 01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:48,290 the eggs here in a second but and you 2200 01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:54,110 with your research into alchemy the this 2201 01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:56,330 powder I think is of great interest to 2202 01:47:00,130 --> 01:46:57,410 you I don't think you're going to let 2203 01:47:01,750 --> 01:47:00,140 this go neither am i I want that I 2204 01:47:06,250 --> 01:47:01,760 wanted to ask you do you know how she 2205 01:47:07,950 --> 01:47:06,260 died was it natural will old I 2206 01:47:11,919 --> 01:47:07,960 like it was natural because there's no 2207 01:47:14,379 --> 01:47:11,929 injury to the body and as far as you can 2208 01:47:16,180 --> 01:47:14,389 tell I mean have you asked as far as I 2209 01:47:17,500 --> 01:47:16,190 can tell you thank you thank you for 2210 01:47:19,419 --> 01:47:17,510 that thank you for that I really 2211 01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:19,429 appreciate that yeah as far as I can 2212 01:47:25,419 --> 01:47:22,489 tell and the other medical people who 2213 01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:25,429 examined her could tell there was no 2214 01:47:31,209 --> 01:47:28,639 outside injuries at all perfectly intact 2215 01:47:32,020 --> 01:47:31,219 body until we attacked it to get tissue 2216 01:47:35,859 --> 01:47:32,030 samples 2217 01:47:37,959 --> 01:47:35,869 let's talk eggs now we briefly touched 2218 01:47:42,250 --> 01:47:37,969 upon this Friday on coasts so I'm going 2219 01:47:46,180 --> 01:47:42,260 to react the question and let's continue 2220 01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:46,190 which is one of the body shows what 2221 01:47:53,799 --> 01:47:51,199 appears to be three eggs like eggs 2222 01:47:58,029 --> 01:47:53,809 chicken eggs dinosaur eggs eggs eggs 2223 01:48:01,870 --> 01:47:58,039 eggs that's a pretty big leap of faith 2224 01:48:03,790 --> 01:48:01,880 there is let's discuss that what do you 2225 01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:03,800 think you're seeing do you think that's 2226 01:48:16,270 --> 01:48:11,199 what it is okay so we went to a lab and 2227 01:48:18,970 --> 01:48:16,280 in Cuzco and we took the two bodies that 2228 01:48:21,939 --> 01:48:18,980 we have the two small little bodies and 2229 01:48:27,819 --> 01:48:21,949 three fingers and three toes one of the 2230 01:48:33,129 --> 01:48:27,829 bodies did frankly look pregnant and you 2231 01:48:37,919 --> 01:48:33,139 know had a bulge down there and so when 2232 01:48:43,149 --> 01:48:37,929 we took the x-rays we are stunned to see 2233 01:48:46,270 --> 01:48:43,159 three oval presences inside the body of 2234 01:48:49,419 --> 01:48:46,280 the female of this of one of the of one 2235 01:48:50,649 --> 01:48:49,429 of the creatures and you can see this 2236 01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:50,659 this is not hidden 2237 01:49:02,500 --> 01:48:54,050 I believe that carries I mean and that's 2238 01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:02,510 T H AI R R Y J am i n carries you mean 2239 01:49:09,580 --> 01:49:05,090 has released this information either 2240 01:49:12,009 --> 01:49:09,590 today or yesterday on his website now 2241 01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:12,019 might be in French you might have to use 2242 01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,110 Google Translate to read it but I 2243 01:49:19,819 --> 01:49:17,119 believe that he's released some of these 2244 01:49:22,939 --> 01:49:19,829 pictures now so I'm not 2245 01:49:26,979 --> 01:49:22,949 hanging out on a limb here he's actually 2246 01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:26,989 showing what is going on here and we 2247 01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:29,760 photographed this and there were three 2248 01:49:43,399 --> 01:49:37,110 eggs or whatever in this bulging you 2249 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:43,409 know pregnant like body and yes we 2250 01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:47,610 cannot we have not taken tissue samples 2251 01:49:51,169 --> 01:49:49,530 of these eggs yet we're being very 2252 01:49:54,589 --> 01:49:51,179 careful we don't want to damage these 2253 01:49:57,919 --> 01:49:54,599 bodies are a lot more damaged than the 2254 01:50:01,010 --> 01:49:57,929 body that we saw in Nazca the larger 2255 01:50:02,899 --> 01:50:01,020 body so we want to be very careful as 2256 01:50:05,629 --> 01:50:02,909 soon as those results come out we'll let 2257 01:50:08,540 --> 01:50:05,639 you know and we're all very interested 2258 01:50:10,879 --> 01:50:08,550 to find out if those are really eggs and 2259 01:50:13,399 --> 01:50:10,889 if they are you know what's in them and 2260 01:50:16,729 --> 01:50:13,409 what's a DNA structure of course if they 2261 01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:16,739 are eggs speculating here that would 2262 01:50:22,069 --> 01:50:19,199 mean that they're reptile because that's 2263 01:50:25,839 --> 01:50:22,079 the definition of a reptile creature 2264 01:50:30,109 --> 01:50:25,849 that lays eggs if we have a hominid 2265 01:50:33,049 --> 01:50:30,119 critter that lays eggs that means we 2266 01:50:37,609 --> 01:50:33,059 have a hominid critter that's a reptile 2267 01:50:40,220 --> 01:50:37,619 and that would be very very big news but 2268 01:50:43,220 --> 01:50:40,230 again we don't know this and we're only 2269 01:50:45,649 --> 01:50:43,230 at the edge of the perception of where 2270 01:50:48,500 --> 01:50:45,659 we're going with all of this no I like 2271 01:50:52,819 --> 01:50:48,510 the way you saying critter but the do 2272 01:50:57,410 --> 01:50:52,829 you think that these critters are young 2273 01:50:59,569 --> 01:50:57,420 adults that they are not adults well I 2274 01:51:02,240 --> 01:50:59,579 mean if you're pregnant you know you're 2275 01:51:06,290 --> 01:51:02,250 thought you and female can have a baby 2276 01:51:09,410 --> 01:51:06,300 at 13 or 14 years old so yeah it could 2277 01:51:13,459 --> 01:51:09,420 be I got it all right I'm making that 2278 01:51:15,859 --> 01:51:13,469 reference because of the size well no 2279 01:51:18,620 --> 01:51:15,869 it's a different being okay well there's 2280 01:51:20,990 --> 01:51:18,630 no doubt it's a different being than the 2281 01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:21,000 larger being the larger being has 2282 01:51:27,950 --> 01:51:24,960 mammalian aspects to its body well the 2283 01:51:31,549 --> 01:51:27,960 smaller being has reptilian aspects to 2284 01:51:33,460 --> 01:51:31,559 its being except the hands and feet on 2285 01:51:36,940 --> 01:51:33,470 both of these appeared 2286 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:36,950 to be the same yes they do now how do we 2287 01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:38,930 explain that now I'm not speculating 2288 01:51:46,290 --> 01:51:41,360 here let's not speculate how could you 2289 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:46,300 explain that I'm trippin I can't I 2290 01:51:54,780 --> 01:51:50,690 really can't accept that there was some 2291 01:51:59,290 --> 01:51:54,790 kind of bifurcation of species and one 2292 01:52:02,590 --> 01:51:59,300 was a mammal and one was a reptilian and 2293 01:52:05,950 --> 01:52:02,600 we don't even know that the one that we 2294 01:52:09,070 --> 01:52:05,960 found Maria is a mammal we only know 2295 01:52:11,140 --> 01:52:09,080 that she has a split forearm which is a 2296 01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:11,150 million trait but we don't know we will 2297 01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:14,270 find out that there's a reptilian with a 2298 01:52:20,860 --> 01:52:17,360 split forearm so we don't know I mean 2299 01:52:23,260 --> 01:52:20,870 some of the people that look at Maria's 2300 01:52:27,220 --> 01:52:23,270 skin said that they thought it looks 2301 01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:27,230 scaling so I'm backing off at this point 2302 01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:29,690 and waiting for science to come in 2303 01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:33,920 because I'm not stupid I know that you 2304 01:52:38,980 --> 01:52:35,330 know when you're coming up against the 2305 01:52:41,170 --> 01:52:38,990 greatest cryptozoology fine of all time 2306 01:52:43,090 --> 01:52:41,180 you better approach it very very 2307 01:52:46,570 --> 01:52:43,100 carefully you know how crazy this sounds 2308 01:52:48,430 --> 01:52:46,580 you know and I had said to you you know 2309 01:52:50,860 --> 01:52:48,440 let's share a little private moment that 2310 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:50,870 you and I had with the audience a Jay 2311 01:52:54,010 --> 01:52:52,370 and I are talking on the phone we're 2312 01:52:56,140 --> 01:52:54,020 discussing all of this and and some 2313 01:52:59,410 --> 01:52:56,150 other stuff too that we won't reveal 2314 01:53:02,800 --> 01:52:59,420 here but I said to Jay Jay this is crazy 2315 01:53:05,860 --> 01:53:02,810 talk right is that that's exactly what I 2316 01:53:07,630 --> 01:53:05,870 said this is too much for me and the 2317 01:53:11,980 --> 01:53:07,640 rest of the world to wrap our mind 2318 01:53:14,890 --> 01:53:11,990 around this is crazy stuff isn't it well 2319 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:14,900 it is and I think what's interesting is 2320 01:53:22,090 --> 01:53:18,410 yes 60 million people or so have seen 2321 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:22,100 the video but the response has been kind 2322 01:53:28,570 --> 01:53:26,210 of strangely quiet like you know no one 2323 01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:28,580 is really saying anything I haven't 2324 01:53:34,210 --> 01:53:31,690 gotten word I know many many very famous 2325 01:53:34,540 --> 01:53:34,220 journalists none of them have written to 2326 01:53:37,450 --> 01:53:34,550 me 2327 01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:37,460 I'm sure they've seen the video I have 2328 01:53:41,890 --> 01:53:39,110 an outside of John right before you I 2329 01:53:44,140 --> 01:53:41,900 mean a couple of others right and find 2330 01:53:47,290 --> 01:53:44,150 it very strange I think that they're 2331 01:53:49,690 --> 01:53:47,300 kind of an apoplectic shock 2332 01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:49,700 over the whole thing and it's you know 2333 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:52,400 it's like either it's the best hoax ever 2334 01:53:59,110 --> 01:53:55,850 in the history of hoaxes or this damn 2335 01:54:01,740 --> 01:53:59,120 thing is real and then that blows their 2336 01:54:05,980 --> 01:54:01,750 mind and I and there's no in-between 2337 01:54:07,390 --> 01:54:05,990 when I talk to you to John about this 2338 01:54:08,980 --> 01:54:07,400 you know he's you know he's part of our 2339 01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:08,990 team here and he's he's on the show 2340 01:54:13,780 --> 01:54:11,360 every weekend and when I told him about 2341 01:54:16,450 --> 01:54:13,790 this last week Jay he hung up on me 2342 01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:16,460 he's like I'm calling Jay said he was 2343 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:19,610 all he could not wait you know to figure 2344 01:54:23,500 --> 01:54:21,650 out and and to see what was going on 2345 01:54:27,670 --> 01:54:23,510 with this and I'm with you I am 2346 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:27,680 surprised that things have been so 2347 01:54:32,530 --> 01:54:29,690 reserved I would have thought it would 2348 01:54:35,260 --> 01:54:32,540 be the other way around that be to that 2349 01:54:37,450 --> 01:54:35,270 you know at least they would go at it 2350 01:54:41,620 --> 01:54:37,460 from a negative aspect and be all over 2351 01:54:44,110 --> 01:54:41,630 it right bye-bye write me and ask me the 2352 01:54:46,180 --> 01:54:44,120 negative questions I'm here for that but 2353 01:54:48,370 --> 01:54:46,190 nothing man it's like you know I'm in 2354 01:54:50,260 --> 01:54:48,380 the Sahara Desert you know there's 2355 01:54:52,090 --> 01:54:50,270 nothing there's no phone calls there's 2356 01:54:54,910 --> 01:54:52,100 nobody inquiring there's people that 2357 01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:54,920 I've known for years calling me a hoaxer 2358 01:54:59,440 --> 01:54:57,440 but not calling me the people that I've 2359 01:55:00,490 --> 01:54:59,450 you know I can't even believe it I mean 2360 01:55:02,710 --> 01:55:00,500 I'm stunned 2361 01:55:04,870 --> 01:55:02,720 people that I really like that were my 2362 01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:04,880 friends that friendships are over 2363 01:55:10,270 --> 01:55:07,610 forever because they didn't even call me 2364 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:10,280 on the phone and say hey Jay why are you 2365 01:55:14,170 --> 01:55:11,930 doing this and then I could have 2366 01:55:16,660 --> 01:55:14,180 explained myself but nothing just go 2367 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:16,670 right to the to their blog and call me a 2368 01:55:20,140 --> 01:55:19,610 hoaxer and say I'm a liar and it's 2369 01:55:25,390 --> 01:55:20,150 shocking 2370 01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:25,400 lost respect for some of our community 2371 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:27,440 have to say well you know and they want 2372 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:29,810 everybody else to be first right to dip 2373 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:32,330 their toe in the water here right that's 2374 01:55:37,420 --> 01:55:34,970 what they're waiting for Jay and you 2375 01:55:39,460 --> 01:55:37,430 know what it's just you and I in 2376 01:55:42,550 --> 01:55:39,470 Rappaport then we'll we'll enjoy this 2377 01:55:45,490 --> 01:55:42,560 and we'll - I'm serious - dang straight 2378 01:55:46,930 --> 01:55:45,500 man just because you caused ripples by 2379 01:55:49,150 --> 01:55:46,940 putting your foot in the water and that 2380 01:55:52,510 --> 01:55:49,160 means they got some reason to shoot you 2381 01:55:54,700 --> 01:55:52,520 does not mean that you shouldn't go step 2382 01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:54,710 in the water and we're going to do it I 2383 01:55:58,330 --> 01:55:56,570 have no problems with getting a little 2384 01:56:01,339 --> 01:55:58,340 bit wet and 2385 01:56:03,319 --> 01:56:01,349 yep and so now this is what I want to do 2386 01:56:06,649 --> 01:56:03,329 and I know I mentioned this at the 2387 01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:06,659 beginning of the show you and I that 2388 01:56:09,470 --> 01:56:08,159 would that one moment when you came up 2389 01:56:11,870 --> 01:56:09,480 to me a couple of years ago to be like 2390 01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:11,880 you know Jimmy man that that that that 2391 01:56:16,580 --> 01:56:14,639 Falken le show was was the best and we 2392 01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:16,590 sat down and we actually I've never done 2393 01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:18,960 that with another guest where we relived 2394 01:56:24,169 --> 01:56:21,840 those moments of fall Canelli and it was 2395 01:56:26,450 --> 01:56:24,179 it was a moment in time and it was a 2396 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:26,460 great conversation so what I would like 2397 01:56:30,379 --> 01:56:28,650 to do is when we come back after the 2398 01:56:32,330 --> 01:56:30,389 break let's talk about some of the other 2399 01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:32,340 stuff that you're working on what's 2400 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:34,170 going on in your life and let's talk a 2401 01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:37,050 little alchemy you want to do that sure 2402 01:56:43,790 --> 01:56:40,050 that's you know why because you're Jay 2403 01:56:46,220 --> 01:56:43,800 widenar that's why Jay thank you so much 2404 01:56:50,540 --> 01:56:46,230 stay right there when we come back let's 2405 01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:50,550 J filmmaker author researcher he's out 2406 01:56:55,339 --> 01:56:52,530 there doing all of that let's find out 2407 01:56:56,590 --> 01:56:55,349 what he's working on next this is fade 2408 01:57:00,060 --> 01:56:56,600 to black 2409 01:57:09,220 --> 01:57:02,500 everybody's from alpha dimension god on 2410 01:57:12,010 --> 01:57:09,230 Jimmy Church radio calm this is kg are a 2411 01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:12,020 digital broadcasting station Salt Lake 2412 01:57:18,610 --> 01:57:16,970 City Utah Van Buren Arkansas Manor 2413 01:57:20,740 --> 01:57:18,620 let's get this man for the ER staff 2414 01:57:23,230 --> 01:57:20,750 right away doctor we see this every day 2415 01:57:25,690 --> 01:57:23,240 heart attack or angina pain due to 2416 01:57:28,060 --> 01:57:25,700 blocked and clogged arteries chelation 2417 01:57:30,220 --> 01:57:28,070 can remove obstructions or blockages 2418 01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:30,230 from arteries and help avoid painful and 2419 01:57:33,580 --> 01:57:31,370 expensive surgery 2420 01:57:35,500 --> 01:57:33,590 now there's angio prams it's a liquid 2421 01:57:37,780 --> 01:57:35,510 oral chelation product that you take 2422 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:37,790 with 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radio our call eight seven seven eight a 2437 01:58:18,730 --> 01:58:14,180 270 221 that's a seven seven eight a two 2438 01:58:21,430 --> 01:58:18,740 seventy two twenty one so you love talk 2439 01:58:25,450 --> 01:58:21,440 radio then you'll love talk stream live 2440 01:58:27,700 --> 01:58:25,460 calm talk stream live is always on 24/7 2441 01:58:29,710 --> 01:58:27,710 with the best streaming talk shows find 2442 01:58:31,570 --> 01:58:29,720 your favorite talkers and discover some 2443 01:58:34,810 --> 01:58:31,580 new ones it's free readily available 2444 01:58:36,820 --> 01:58:34,820 online or on the smartphone or tablet 2445 01:58:38,890 --> 01:58:36,830 finding your favorite talk shows all in 2446 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:38,900 one place has gotten a whole lot easier 2447 01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:41,930 just go to talk stream live.com 2448 01:58:47,770 --> 01:58:43,730 be sure to download the free apps from 2449 01:58:50,050 --> 01:58:47,780 Google Play or the itunes app store 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know a secret 2464 01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:38,369 I love ponies I really love ponies I'm 2465 01:59:41,959 --> 01:59:39,090 serious 2466 01:59:44,870 --> 01:59:41,969 I couldn't stay saying without poets the 2467 01:59:51,069 --> 01:59:44,880 brush fly fade to black 2468 01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:54,080 this is AIDS black with Jimmy Church on 2469 02:00:01,160 --> 01:59:57,360 the game changer radio network at K GRA 2470 02:00:12,860 --> 02:00:01,170 the global radio alliance 2471 02:00:18,090 --> 02:00:14,940 welcome back fade to black I'm you'll 2472 02:00:22,290 --> 02:00:18,100 see me church tonight our guest J 2473 02:00:25,230 --> 02:00:22,300 Widener yes he is the senior director of 2474 02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:25,240 content for Gaia television but he's 2475 02:00:29,580 --> 02:00:26,490 written some of the best books 2476 02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:29,590 documentaries filmmaker feature films 2477 02:00:35,970 --> 02:00:33,280 over the years stuff that not only when 2478 02:00:38,820 --> 02:00:35,980 it comes to Stanley Kubrick but alchemy 2479 02:00:41,850 --> 02:00:38,830 and fall kennelly stuff that has changed 2480 02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:41,860 me to my very core and I've always 2481 02:00:46,230 --> 02:00:44,890 respected J for that so J let's let's 2482 02:00:48,050 --> 02:00:46,240 talk about that what are you working on 2483 02:00:53,550 --> 02:00:48,060 now 2484 02:00:56,940 --> 02:00:53,560 I'm very proud of is a twelve part 2485 02:01:01,560 --> 02:00:56,950 series called the sacred geometry of 2486 02:01:06,750 --> 02:01:01,570 space and time and it's a in-depth 2487 02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:06,760 examination of I guess what you call the 2488 02:01:15,690 --> 02:01:10,110 relationship of the number system 2489 02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:15,700 between space and time and in that we're 2490 02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:18,610 going to be examining the error that we 2491 02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:21,370 live in which I call the Kali Yuga which 2492 02:01:27,540 --> 02:01:25,090 is what the Hindus call it and it's the 2493 02:01:31,550 --> 02:01:27,550 work of a great mind his name is Robert 2494 02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:31,560 Lawler he's written several books he's a 2495 02:01:37,530 --> 02:01:34,930 very in-depth scholar and he's going to 2496 02:01:41,550 --> 02:01:37,540 present very very compelling evidence 2497 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:41,560 that we are truly living in the Kali 2498 02:01:49,170 --> 02:01:46,450 Yuga or the Iron Age and that the things 2499 02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:49,180 that are going on around us can be very 2500 02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:54,250 well understood once you fathom that we 2501 02:01:59,840 --> 02:01:57,490 are living in an age of deterioration 2502 02:02:02,550 --> 02:01:59,850 and I think people will be very 2503 02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:02,560 fascinated by it it does bring in a 2504 02:02:06,900 --> 02:02:05,170 little bit of math and scares people a 2505 02:02:11,070 --> 02:02:06,910 little bit of geometry which scares 2506 02:02:13,620 --> 02:02:11,080 people but in the end I think you and 2507 02:02:15,810 --> 02:02:13,630 your family will be you know greatly 2508 02:02:18,540 --> 02:02:15,820 enhanced by the experience so that's 2509 02:02:21,390 --> 02:02:18,550 only one of the projects I'm working on 2510 02:02:23,430 --> 02:02:21,400 when you start to 2511 02:02:25,830 --> 02:02:23,440 when it comes down to a black-and-white 2512 02:02:28,890 --> 02:02:25,840 situation when it's come sounds when it 2513 02:02:31,050 --> 02:02:28,900 comes down to numbers and math it what 2514 02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:31,060 does that tell you I do get a little bit 2515 02:02:34,980 --> 02:02:33,250 nervous you know because now you're 2516 02:02:37,140 --> 02:02:34,990 getting out of the speculation side of 2517 02:02:39,630 --> 02:02:37,150 things and and we're getting into 2518 02:02:42,150 --> 02:02:39,640 numbers and and so for you does it does 2519 02:02:44,850 --> 02:02:42,160 it scare you does it Tribune as it is a 2520 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:44,860 part of now of something I love I love 2521 02:02:50,070 --> 02:02:47,530 math I love number because number is 2522 02:02:54,510 --> 02:02:50,080 reality right it's how we define reality 2523 02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:54,520 and so I you know I I did suffer through 2524 02:03:00,090 --> 02:02:57,130 the horrible 2525 02:03:03,150 --> 02:03:00,100 learning system of the American school 2526 02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:03,160 system so I know perfectly well the 2527 02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:07,410 terror that people have because their 2528 02:03:14,430 --> 02:03:10,930 teachers are so bad at teaching what 2529 02:03:16,590 --> 02:03:14,440 mathematics really is that everyone 2530 02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:16,600 hates math when they come out of school 2531 02:03:22,020 --> 02:03:19,930 and I totally understand that but when 2532 02:03:25,530 --> 02:03:22,030 you watch this series of sacred geometry 2533 02:03:29,310 --> 02:03:25,540 a space and time you will fall in love 2534 02:03:32,220 --> 02:03:29,320 with number if you have a child who is 2535 02:03:35,700 --> 02:03:32,230 having difficulty with math I highly 2536 02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:35,710 recommend you watch this show with them 2537 02:03:40,890 --> 02:03:38,170 because they will begin to understand 2538 02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:40,900 that there is a loveliness in number 2539 02:03:47,700 --> 02:03:43,930 that describes our reality and that 2540 02:03:51,750 --> 02:03:47,710 number and math are difficult yes but 2541 02:03:55,050 --> 02:03:51,760 once you really grok what mathematics 2542 02:03:58,860 --> 02:03:55,060 and geometry really are then you realize 2543 02:04:02,340 --> 02:03:58,870 that they are simplifying agents for 2544 02:04:06,420 --> 02:04:02,350 reality they make reality easier to 2545 02:04:09,150 --> 02:04:06,430 understand and so I do not you know I 2546 02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:09,160 understand why people are fearful of 2547 02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:12,490 math and geometry but I blame that on 2548 02:04:18,810 --> 02:04:14,560 the school system not on math and 2549 02:04:22,290 --> 02:04:18,820 geometry the life and world as we know 2550 02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:22,300 it that reality is is is not a real way 2551 02:04:27,540 --> 02:04:24,400 it's not a true one things are not what 2552 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:27,550 they seem and you have written a lot of 2553 02:04:33,690 --> 02:04:30,490 books on this and what was the tipping 2554 02:04:35,180 --> 02:04:33,700 point for you Jay when you sat back and 2555 02:04:37,940 --> 02:04:35,190 went okay you know what 2556 02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:37,950 we're living a lie right the world is 2557 02:04:44,770 --> 02:04:40,800 not what we are being taught what was 2558 02:04:49,490 --> 02:04:44,780 that one thing that did it for you I 2559 02:04:51,830 --> 02:04:49,500 think it was probably [\h__\h] le and 2560 02:04:56,990 --> 02:04:51,840 reading his book mysteries of the 2561 02:05:00,620 --> 02:04:57,000 cathedrals and realizing that this kind 2562 02:05:07,060 --> 02:05:00,630 of facsimile world that I was living in 2563 02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:07,070 was really so fake that it was you know 2564 02:05:17,150 --> 02:05:10,290 pathetic and that underneath this world 2565 02:05:23,300 --> 02:05:17,160 was this world of harmonics and symmetry 2566 02:05:27,470 --> 02:05:23,310 and beautiful a musical kind of 2567 02:05:29,930 --> 02:05:27,480 proportion that I really realized that 2568 02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:29,940 the world that I was being presented in 2569 02:05:38,630 --> 02:05:34,320 my school and in my education was an 2570 02:05:43,130 --> 02:05:38,640 ugly world it was a world of just base 2571 02:05:48,530 --> 02:05:43,140 ugliness and that the world that I was 2572 02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:48,540 being presented to and these other kind 2573 02:05:55,340 --> 02:05:51,840 of intellectual processes was a world of 2574 02:05:58,580 --> 02:05:55,350 great beauty of sacred geometry of the 2575 02:06:02,000 --> 02:05:58,590 harmony of nature and that actually the 2576 02:06:06,620 --> 02:06:02,010 school seemed to me to be going out of 2577 02:06:10,010 --> 02:06:06,630 their way to paint an ugly picture of 2578 02:06:12,590 --> 02:06:10,020 the world and when I look at the results 2579 02:06:15,730 --> 02:06:12,600 of modern schooling when I look at the 2580 02:06:20,060 --> 02:06:15,740 anti-shah protesters and these masked 2581 02:06:23,930 --> 02:06:20,070 crazed people that are you know doing 2582 02:06:26,210 --> 02:06:23,940 amazingly bad things I see that this is 2583 02:06:28,610 --> 02:06:26,220 the world when you teach someone that 2584 02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:28,620 the world is ugly they view the world as 2585 02:06:37,130 --> 02:06:33,930 being ugly if one thing pops one thing 2586 02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:37,140 whether it is quantum mechanics parallel 2587 02:06:44,930 --> 02:06:40,110 worlds time to have life after death 2588 02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:44,940 ghosts lost history the Apollo moon hoax 2589 02:06:51,700 --> 02:06:47,690 right if what if 2590 02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:51,710 right if one thing pops does everything 2591 02:06:57,700 --> 02:06:54,370 fall like dominoes does everything that 2592 02:06:59,530 --> 02:06:57,710 had a big question mark on it get 2593 02:07:02,170 --> 02:06:59,540 answered do we just need that one little 2594 02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:02,180 thing to break absolutely right 2595 02:07:10,030 --> 02:07:05,690 that I think is the the golden thread 2596 02:07:12,850 --> 02:07:10,040 that I've been pursuing I hoped that it 2597 02:07:15,460 --> 02:07:12,860 would be the hand a cross that would be 2598 02:07:17,530 --> 02:07:15,470 the the thread that got pulled that 2599 02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:17,540 unraveled the whole thing right when I 2600 02:07:22,750 --> 02:07:20,450 saw it it would be Kubrick faking the 2601 02:07:25,420 --> 02:07:22,760 moon landings that would be that thing 2602 02:07:28,900 --> 02:07:25,430 that unfolded and now I hope it's this 2603 02:07:31,930 --> 02:07:28,910 thing you know this Peru mummy and I'll 2604 02:07:35,590 --> 02:07:31,940 probably be disappointed like I was on 2605 02:07:38,350 --> 02:07:35,600 the first two but somehow this one has 2606 02:07:43,180 --> 02:07:38,360 traction the other two did not have and 2607 02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:43,190 I think that this might be the greatest 2608 02:07:50,410 --> 02:07:48,110 chance for us to unravel reality the 2609 02:07:53,820 --> 02:07:50,420 other world that's walking out there 2610 02:07:57,180 --> 02:07:53,830 right now with us is the world of 2611 02:08:00,040 --> 02:07:57,190 alchemy and alchemists and that 2612 02:08:00,780 --> 02:08:00,050 relationship that they have with each 2613 02:08:04,540 --> 02:08:00,790 other 2614 02:08:06,820 --> 02:08:04,550 it's it's an exclusive club it's one 2615 02:08:09,970 --> 02:08:06,830 that we don't see it's almost like a 2616 02:08:14,170 --> 02:08:09,980 parallel world right and they are among 2617 02:08:15,850 --> 02:08:14,180 us do they care that that culture do 2618 02:08:20,350 --> 02:08:15,860 they even care that we exist 2619 02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:20,360 we're just or another reality you know 2620 02:08:26,010 --> 02:08:22,250 what I mean they are doing their own 2621 02:08:28,630 --> 02:08:26,020 thing and it's a mysterious organization 2622 02:08:31,090 --> 02:08:28,640 that that is there and it's been there 2623 02:08:34,890 --> 02:08:31,100 since the beginning of time do they care 2624 02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:34,900 about us us normal status quo humans I 2625 02:08:40,660 --> 02:08:38,690 hope they do but I suspect they don't I 2626 02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:40,670 don't think that they don't care for us 2627 02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:42,800 because there are heartless people I 2628 02:08:47,140 --> 02:08:44,810 think that they don't care for us 2629 02:08:48,250 --> 02:08:47,150 because they can't figure out why we're 2630 02:08:51,370 --> 02:08:48,260 so clueless 2631 02:08:56,700 --> 02:08:51,380 now I do think that they care about some 2632 02:09:01,389 --> 02:08:56,710 of us and they've set up apparatus and 2633 02:09:03,969 --> 02:09:01,399 tests to find gifted humans 2634 02:09:05,619 --> 02:09:03,979 that could come through and that they 2635 02:09:08,979 --> 02:09:05,629 would then gather up and bring into 2636 02:09:12,219 --> 02:09:08,989 their secret societies but for the most 2637 02:09:15,129 --> 02:09:12,229 part no we're like the I can't remember 2638 02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:15,139 their name in the Harry Potter story but 2639 02:09:21,399 --> 02:09:18,079 they have a name for the people that are 2640 02:09:23,169 --> 02:09:21,409 out in the in the in the suburbia that 2641 02:09:26,279 --> 02:09:23,179 don't know what's really going on I 2642 02:09:30,459 --> 02:09:26,289 think that's actually very true because 2643 02:09:33,810 --> 02:09:30,469 look if you and I were sitting somewhere 2644 02:09:38,319 --> 02:09:33,820 or may not even you and I I by myself I 2645 02:09:42,879 --> 02:09:38,329 doubt that one of that you know some 2646 02:09:45,909 --> 02:09:42,889 aged wit wise wizard type guy would sit 2647 02:09:47,799 --> 02:09:45,919 down with me and go okay Church you've 2648 02:09:52,419 --> 02:09:47,809 got it all wrong so let me help you out 2649 02:09:55,419 --> 02:09:52,429 here they don't care about me right and 2650 02:09:58,239 --> 02:09:55,429 you know what I'm saying they know it 2651 02:10:02,139 --> 02:09:58,249 all they have all the secrets but we'll 2652 02:10:04,859 --> 02:10:02,149 never know probably I mean I hate to say 2653 02:10:10,179 --> 02:10:04,869 it but yeah there's a larger than that 2654 02:10:14,169 --> 02:10:10,189 but they have set up a system that if 2655 02:10:16,839 --> 02:10:14,179 you're perceptive and curious you can 2656 02:10:20,199 --> 02:10:16,849 find your way to the truth and the truth 2657 02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:20,209 is much bigger than we've been led to 2658 02:10:26,709 --> 02:10:23,570 believe and into extent that is 2659 02:10:29,770 --> 02:10:26,719 absolutely astonishing so if you're 2660 02:10:33,009 --> 02:10:29,780 curious and if you follow the path and 2661 02:10:36,250 --> 02:10:33,019 you're righteous and honest and you 2662 02:10:40,209 --> 02:10:36,260 don't cheat and you don't hate you keep 2663 02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:40,219 only good thoughts there I believe and 2664 02:10:45,879 --> 02:10:43,010 I've seen the path and the only reason I 2665 02:10:49,149 --> 02:10:45,889 haven't taken it is because I'm kind of 2666 02:10:52,089 --> 02:10:49,159 here at Gaia and for the time being I 2667 02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:52,099 believe this is where I need to be but 2668 02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:55,010 there is a path that you can find and 2669 02:11:04,389 --> 02:10:58,639 that that path will lead you physically 2670 02:11:06,549 --> 02:11:04,399 lead you to a place where the world is 2671 02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:06,559 completely different than the world of 2672 02:11:12,069 --> 02:11:08,719 uni and the rest that are listening are 2673 02:11:15,340 --> 02:11:12,079 living in here on earth right right 2674 02:11:17,590 --> 02:11:15,350 right not not a fake place not a train 2675 02:11:20,770 --> 02:11:17,600 as the National plays right a physical 2676 02:11:25,780 --> 02:11:20,780 3-dimensional place that where things 2677 02:11:27,550 --> 02:11:25,790 are going right and you sound like and 2678 02:11:31,540 --> 02:11:27,560 when you say that you sound like you're 2679 02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:31,550 coming from a position of knowledge I am 2680 02:11:41,470 --> 02:11:37,040 I am I've been told from very very very 2681 02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:41,480 high up people that you know there is a 2682 02:11:49,770 --> 02:11:45,410 place that that there is a game going on 2683 02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:49,780 and that game is to try to find highly 2684 02:11:58,240 --> 02:11:54,110 advanced human beings and that the game 2685 02:12:02,770 --> 02:11:58,250 is set up so that only highly advanced 2686 02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:02,780 human beings can find their way to this 2687 02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:06,530 place and when they get there they're 2688 02:12:14,410 --> 02:12:10,850 greeted like heroes and because they are 2689 02:12:15,940 --> 02:12:14,420 the heroes of the heroic journey and and 2690 02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:15,950 then they're brought in and they're 2691 02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:20,480 taught all of the great secrets and in 2692 02:12:27,370 --> 02:12:23,690 fact there's a that I was talking about 2693 02:12:30,670 --> 02:12:27,380 Harry Potter before the original Harry 2694 02:12:34,840 --> 02:12:30,680 Potter story the very first Harry Potter 2695 02:12:37,050 --> 02:12:34,850 novel actually tells that story that's 2696 02:12:40,060 --> 02:12:37,060 what is going on in the Harry Potter 2697 02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:40,070 first novel now what's interesting about 2698 02:12:45,790 --> 02:12:42,050 that is that there's a direct 2699 02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:45,800 correlation to Foulke Adelie the 2700 02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:50,210 alchemist from France in Eugene canceled 2701 02:12:58,930 --> 02:12:55,040 a one of full canalis students 30 years 2702 02:13:01,900 --> 02:12:58,940 after Volk and le dissapeared received a 2703 02:13:05,500 --> 02:13:01,910 letter in the mail that had a seal on it 2704 02:13:08,010 --> 02:13:05,510 just like Harry Potter receives with 2705 02:13:12,250 --> 02:13:08,020 written an aristocratic language 2706 02:13:15,550 --> 02:13:12,260 inviting Eugene can CLA to go to the 2707 02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:15,560 Saville train station Harry Potter is 2708 02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:19,250 also invited to go to a train station in 2709 02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:21,490 the Harry Potter film Harry Potter 2710 02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:24,890 disappears into a wall in real life 2711 02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:27,290 Eugene counselee is picked up by a 2712 02:13:31,770 --> 02:13:28,330 limousine 2713 02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:31,780 and taken to a castle in the Pyrenees 2714 02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:35,920 where everybody dresses up in medieval 2715 02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:40,510 costumes and is practicing alchemy just 2716 02:13:46,740 --> 02:13:44,400 like in the Harry Potter movies and 2717 02:13:50,460 --> 02:13:46,750 alchemy you know should be explained 2718 02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:50,470 because you people don't understand what 2719 02:13:58,530 --> 02:13:55,210 it means but al chem is Egyptian word 2720 02:14:01,530 --> 02:13:58,540 for the black lands and so alchemy is 2721 02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:01,540 really the work of the black work or the 2722 02:14:08,820 --> 02:14:05,170 dark work not dark like an evil but dark 2723 02:14:12,090 --> 02:14:08,830 like in the second soil of the Nile 2724 02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:12,100 River which is dark and black and gives 2725 02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:15,010 growth to you know wondrous plants and 2726 02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:16,570 that kind of thing yeah they called it 2727 02:14:21,270 --> 02:14:19,090 oh they called it the black land the 2728 02:14:24,720 --> 02:14:21,280 river that's right the black land that's 2729 02:14:26,550 --> 02:14:24,730 right it's exactly right and so alchemy 2730 02:14:29,370 --> 02:14:26,560 so when people say oh you're doing the 2731 02:14:30,540 --> 02:14:29,380 black arts well that's what alchemy is 2732 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:30,550 called the black arts 2733 02:14:35,610 --> 02:14:33,730 not because we're doing dark work but 2734 02:14:40,230 --> 02:14:35,620 because what we're doing is we're trying 2735 02:14:43,770 --> 02:14:40,240 to find the source of spirit within the 2736 02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:43,780 material world and that's what all of 2737 02:14:49,290 --> 02:14:46,930 alchemy is and so what that means is 2738 02:14:55,530 --> 02:14:49,300 that you're trying to find that living 2739 02:15:00,330 --> 02:14:55,540 spirit which exists within matter and so 2740 02:15:03,450 --> 02:15:00,340 this whole thing is a gigantic art that 2741 02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:03,460 probably came from the Annunaki I think 2742 02:15:09,060 --> 02:15:06,370 it's the reason why the Anunnaki could 2743 02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:09,070 live to be seven to eight thousand years 2744 02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:12,370 old because the promise of alchemy is 2745 02:15:19,410 --> 02:15:14,950 the elixir of life which gives you 2746 02:15:24,060 --> 02:15:19,420 immortality and if you think about it if 2747 02:15:28,770 --> 02:15:24,070 you're trying to find the source of life 2748 02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:28,780 you would want to find it in the source 2749 02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:31,570 of nature so you would take nature and 2750 02:15:37,380 --> 02:15:34,510 you would boil nature down to its its 2751 02:15:40,830 --> 02:15:37,390 essence and then you would take the 2752 02:15:41,790 --> 02:15:40,840 essence and hope that it would revive 2753 02:15:44,010 --> 02:15:41,800 you know 2754 02:15:46,709 --> 02:15:44,020 the body and I think that what they get 2755 02:15:49,229 --> 02:15:46,719 in Egypt and in these alchemical 2756 02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:49,239 societies was they tried you know 2757 02:15:56,189 --> 02:15:51,610 boiling things down many things down 2758 02:15:59,459 --> 02:15:56,199 many plants many meats many many things 2759 02:16:01,979 --> 02:15:59,469 down to try to find the source of this 2760 02:16:05,339 --> 02:16:01,989 and see which one was the source that 2761 02:16:07,229 --> 02:16:05,349 would you know give us longer life and I 2762 02:16:10,530 --> 02:16:07,239 think eventually they discovered that 2763 02:16:12,839 --> 02:16:10,540 and then that became a secret society 2764 02:16:17,399 --> 02:16:12,849 which I think still exists today 2765 02:16:18,510 --> 02:16:17,409 actually mine it do didn't Eugene and 2766 02:16:20,430 --> 02:16:18,520 help me out here 2767 02:16:22,799 --> 02:16:20,440 he gets the letter he goes up to the 2768 02:16:25,530 --> 02:16:22,809 castle he sees what's going on he's kind 2769 02:16:26,069 --> 02:16:25,540 of tripping but doesn't he see fall 2770 02:16:32,219 --> 02:16:26,079 Canelli 2771 02:16:33,809 --> 02:16:32,229 is that no he's gone back 30 years yeah 2772 02:16:35,700 --> 02:16:33,819 he's gone back 30 years that's right 2773 02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:35,710 that's right when he softball Kelly 2774 02:16:43,740 --> 02:16:39,490 laughs polka Nelly was 80 and he would 2775 02:16:47,490 --> 02:16:43,750 end Eugene can CLA was 30 and now Eugene 2776 02:16:50,700 --> 02:16:47,500 cancel a was 60 and folk and Ellie was 2777 02:16:54,179 --> 02:16:50,710 50 10 years younger than Eugene 2778 02:16:56,969 --> 02:16:54,189 counselee so that really freaked out 2779 02:17:00,000 --> 02:16:56,979 Eugene counselee and then he realized 2780 02:17:04,379 --> 02:17:00,010 that alchemy was a slow process of going 2781 02:17:08,549 --> 02:17:04,389 backwards per minute in other words you 2782 02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:08,559 can't go back instantly from 80 to 50 or 2783 02:17:14,129 --> 02:17:11,290 to 40 or 30 you have to go back 2784 02:17:14,610 --> 02:17:14,139 gradually and that's what polka hell he 2785 02:17:17,339 --> 02:17:14,620 was doing 2786 02:17:23,700 --> 02:17:17,349 so that means vulcanalia is alive today 2787 02:17:26,759 --> 02:17:23,710 but he's to know it stops actually at 2788 02:17:28,589 --> 02:17:26,769 around 20 okay buddy what so so he's a 2789 02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:28,599 drinking age and he could be running 2790 02:17:33,059 --> 02:17:31,330 around a North Hollywood right now he 2791 02:17:35,849 --> 02:17:33,069 probably is that's where I hear a lot of 2792 02:17:38,669 --> 02:17:35,859 these I'm not kidding you right I really 2793 02:17:44,719 --> 02:17:38,679 hear from people that are in the know 2794 02:17:49,500 --> 02:17:44,729 but a lot of the immortals are living in 2795 02:17:51,809 --> 02:17:49,510 Hollywood Malibu and that area that 2796 02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:51,819 that's their favorite area no question 2797 02:17:55,290 --> 02:17:54,490 about it man there's no yeah I tried my 2798 02:17:58,080 --> 02:17:55,300 brother 2799 02:18:01,830 --> 02:17:58,090 it's the weather I trip on that all the 2800 02:18:04,139 --> 02:18:01,840 time the subculture I'll say this you 2801 02:18:06,030 --> 02:18:04,149 know you lived here in the valley for a 2802 02:18:08,219 --> 02:18:06,040 long time you understand Hollywood you 2803 02:18:12,330 --> 02:18:08,229 understand the processes of it when I 2804 02:18:14,129 --> 02:18:12,340 first moved here I was told from a few 2805 02:18:15,809 --> 02:18:14,139 different sources unrelated to each 2806 02:18:19,799 --> 02:18:15,819 other right just just different people 2807 02:18:22,799 --> 02:18:19,809 that dude be careful man there is things 2808 02:18:23,879 --> 02:18:22,809 going on in this town be careful who you 2809 02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:23,889 hang out with 2810 02:18:28,980 --> 02:18:25,840 there are circle you know it was like 2811 02:18:32,250 --> 02:18:28,990 this whole Rosemary's Baby water it 2812 02:18:35,070 --> 02:18:32,260 right right and other it and as I have 2813 02:18:36,929 --> 02:18:35,080 moved along in Hollywood everything that 2814 02:18:40,919 --> 02:18:36,939 I was told in the beginning came true 2815 02:18:43,950 --> 02:18:40,929 cooking up a little olivarium dark stuff 2816 02:18:45,870 --> 02:18:43,960 got out of Halle it's interesting I am 2817 02:18:48,120 --> 02:18:45,880 as soon as Mukesh we shouldn't be 2818 02:18:51,929 --> 02:18:48,130 talking about Ali as soon as you bring 2819 02:18:54,450 --> 02:18:51,939 out the dark side man you know it you 2820 02:18:55,549 --> 02:18:54,460 gotta love it it was that perfectly 2821 02:18:59,129 --> 02:18:55,559 timed 2822 02:19:02,370 --> 02:18:59,139 unbelievable unbelievable yeah and so 2823 02:19:04,980 --> 02:19:02,380 when when we talked about this this 2824 02:19:06,929 --> 02:19:04,990 other someone we're talking about 2825 02:19:10,049 --> 02:19:06,939 alchemy and alchemists and the 2826 02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:10,059 grandmasters and and I usually loosely 2827 02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:12,370 use the word Wizards but that's what I'm 2828 02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:15,370 referring to here is impossible that 2829 02:19:21,410 --> 02:19:18,160 right now you could be literally at a 2830 02:19:25,589 --> 02:19:21,420 supermarket and walk by somebody that is 2831 02:19:30,750 --> 02:19:25,599 500 years old and they look they look 50 2832 02:19:35,070 --> 02:19:30,760 I would have to say yes from what I know 2833 02:19:37,139 --> 02:19:35,080 yes but there is a group of people that 2834 02:19:41,400 --> 02:19:37,149 are around that have been around for a 2835 02:19:44,129 --> 02:19:41,410 long time and that they know the secret 2836 02:19:47,209 --> 02:19:44,139 of alchemy and that they got it from the 2837 02:19:51,210 --> 02:19:47,219 Anunnaki and they are the bloodline 2838 02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:51,220 would you you alluded to this a minute 2839 02:19:57,270 --> 02:19:54,160 ago let's get let's go back to that if 2840 02:20:01,139 --> 02:19:57,280 you were offered that opportunity to go 2841 02:20:03,150 --> 02:20:01,149 to that castle in the Pyrenees would you 2842 02:20:05,070 --> 02:20:03,160 go yes 2843 02:20:06,599 --> 02:20:05,080 you got the sealed letter you would get 2844 02:20:08,139 --> 02:20:06,609 on the plane you would you would go to 2845 02:20:12,310 --> 02:20:08,149 the train station 2846 02:20:15,160 --> 02:20:12,320 yep no doubt I would like to know 2847 02:20:16,750 --> 02:20:15,170 everything about it there's no doubt 2848 02:20:19,900 --> 02:20:16,760 about it if you're out there listening 2849 02:20:20,670 --> 02:20:19,910 please invite me I promise I won't say a 2850 02:20:24,099 --> 02:20:20,680 word 2851 02:20:29,830 --> 02:20:24,109 look how good I bet about the alien yes 2852 02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:29,840 yes yes yes what are you going to the 2853 02:20:35,200 --> 02:20:33,290 Falken le book was amazing and and the 2854 02:20:38,349 --> 02:20:35,210 way that you wrote it and laid it out 2855 02:20:41,260 --> 02:20:38,359 and and the the cross of Hendaye but 2856 02:20:44,380 --> 02:20:41,270 would you ever present in book form what 2857 02:20:46,810 --> 02:20:44,390 you actually know you have said to me J 2858 02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:46,820 that there you cannot tell me certain 2859 02:20:50,889 --> 02:20:48,890 things and and you've cut me off and 2860 02:20:52,330 --> 02:20:50,899 I've tried you we laugh about it I've 2861 02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:52,340 tried to give this information out of 2862 02:20:58,780 --> 02:20:54,770 you but will you ever put it in book 2863 02:21:04,060 --> 02:20:58,790 form for all of us I don't want to say 2864 02:21:07,500 --> 02:21:04,070 yes or no but you know I I received an 2865 02:21:11,770 --> 02:21:07,510 interesting anonymous letter recently 2866 02:21:16,719 --> 02:21:11,780 and it was a person who had interviewed 2867 02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:16,729 a judge who was dying of cancer he was 2868 02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:19,760 in his 80s and this judge decided to 2869 02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:24,050 tell everything and this 12-page letter 2870 02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:28,490 was so amazing and I may one day put it 2871 02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:31,280 out but it was about the truth about the 2872 02:21:38,469 --> 02:21:35,120 politics and the reality that we live in 2873 02:21:41,170 --> 02:21:38,479 and what judges and police and everybody 2874 02:21:45,010 --> 02:21:41,180 has to really deal with in this world 2875 02:21:48,340 --> 02:21:45,020 politicians that are realized that you 2876 02:21:51,010 --> 02:21:48,350 know I think before I go I'm going to 2877 02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:51,020 have to tell everything and you know it 2878 02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:54,560 inspired me in such a way that I wanted 2879 02:22:00,370 --> 02:21:56,960 to really you know put it out so I think 2880 02:22:02,620 --> 02:22:00,380 I will one day not anytime soon because 2881 02:22:07,719 --> 02:22:02,630 I got a few years left I hope knock on 2882 02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:07,729 wood and but I think one day I will put 2883 02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:11,210 something out that will blow everybody's 2884 02:22:15,940 --> 02:22:14,210 mind I think and not going back to 2885 02:22:17,650 --> 02:22:15,950 Kubrick because you and I always seem to 2886 02:22:19,820 --> 02:22:17,660 go back to Kubrick but I think that's 2887 02:22:23,210 --> 02:22:19,830 what he was trying to do I really 2888 02:22:27,470 --> 02:22:23,220 do i swash Eyes Wide Shut 2889 02:22:29,990 --> 02:22:27,480 you watch that film and it is so layered 2890 02:22:31,970 --> 02:22:30,000 I mean The Shining okay we can go back 2891 02:22:35,060 --> 02:22:31,980 and pick his stuff apart and I love it 2892 02:22:37,820 --> 02:22:35,070 he's my favorite but Eyes Wide Shut is a 2893 02:22:40,011 --> 02:22:37,830 freaky freaky film about reality and I 2894 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:40,021 think that's exactly what he was trying 2895 02:22:46,430 --> 02:22:44,250 to say well there's supposedly a rumor I 2896 02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:46,440 mean there's an article out on 2897 02:22:51,740 --> 02:22:48,930 I think it's disclosed TV came out 2898 02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:51,750 yesterday or the day before I can 2899 02:22:57,290 --> 02:22:54,450 remember but supposedly and this may be 2900 02:23:02,270 --> 02:22:57,300 a troll job because we haven't traced it 2901 02:23:05,301 --> 02:23:02,280 back but Nicole Kidman is saying that 2902 02:23:08,360 --> 02:23:05,311 Kubrick told her that the world is run 2903 02:23:11,511 --> 02:23:08,370 by a pedophile ring and that he told her 2904 02:23:13,460 --> 02:23:11,521 this during Eyes Wide Shut and I don't 2905 02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:13,470 know if this is true or not I'm looking 2906 02:23:18,620 --> 02:23:15,210 into it I'd like to find the video 2907 02:23:20,720 --> 02:23:18,630 that's is being quoted from Nicole 2908 02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:20,730 Kidman's father was involved in some 2909 02:23:25,011 --> 02:23:23,250 very serious things in Australia so I 2910 02:23:28,551 --> 02:23:25,021 don't know if she's trying to vindicate 2911 02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:28,561 herself or what's going on here but it 2912 02:23:33,801 --> 02:23:30,570 is very interesting if it comes out to 2913 02:23:36,590 --> 02:23:33,811 be true all right AJ thank you where can 2914 02:23:39,140 --> 02:23:36,600 everybody sign up a gaya and what is the 2915 02:23:42,590 --> 02:23:39,150 timetable for the rolling out of the 2916 02:23:44,450 --> 02:23:42,600 rest of the Nazca series uh it will come 2917 02:23:47,450 --> 02:23:44,460 out as it comes out we have three two 2918 02:23:52,460 --> 02:23:47,460 updates up there right now if you go to 2919 02:23:55,790 --> 02:23:52,470 Gaia com backslash Weidner W Eid NER I 2920 02:23:59,570 --> 02:23:55,800 get credit and that helps me in my life 2921 02:24:00,980 --> 02:23:59,580 I appreciate any help I can get and just 2922 02:24:04,670 --> 02:24:00,990 stay tuned because it's going to get 2923 02:24:08,690 --> 02:24:04,680 wilder and Wilder idea when is part 3 2924 02:24:09,140 --> 02:24:08,700 coming out very soon like but maybe this 2925 02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:09,150 week 2926 02:24:17,930 --> 02:24:14,250 books anything else that you want to oh 2927 02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:17,940 oh I say curb mysteries.com what what's 2928 02:24:22,581 --> 02:24:20,130 new there not much 2929 02:24:24,711 --> 02:24:22,591 I'm too busy a guy 2930 02:24:26,751 --> 02:24:24,721 I used to love that website managed to 2931 02:24:28,521 --> 02:24:26,761 go there all the time but sacred 2932 02:24:30,981 --> 02:24:28,531 mysteries and you also have Jay Widener 2933 02:24:33,921 --> 02:24:30,991 calm all of the links 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anybody has wondered 3032 02:29:58,080 --> 02:29:55,210 it's very simple it's too good to be 3033 02:30:01,469 --> 02:29:58,090 true and i love it i love it 3034 02:30:05,399 --> 02:30:01,479 the anybody that posed or says you know 3035 02:30:08,250 --> 02:30:05,409 it's fake there's no there's it's not 3036 02:30:11,899 --> 02:30:08,260 fake it's a mummy it's a real skeleton 3037 02:30:14,630 --> 02:30:11,909 covered with with organs covered in skin 3038 02:30:17,370 --> 02:30:14,640 what does white powder is I have no idea 3039 02:30:20,309 --> 02:30:17,380 the fact that it is in the sitting 3040 02:30:24,689 --> 02:30:20,319 position for me I've always tripped on 3041 02:30:27,630 --> 02:30:24,699 that I understand the the traditions in 3042 02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:27,640 Peru when burying the dead I do get that 3043 02:30:34,889 --> 02:30:31,210 I do understand it the the part for me 3044 02:30:37,469 --> 02:30:34,899 that is fascinating is the way that the 3045 02:30:39,389 --> 02:30:37,479 fingers are curled around I mean when is 3046 02:30:42,420 --> 02:30:39,399 rigor mortis set in right with a body 3047 02:30:45,780 --> 02:30:42,430 and if this body is to seize instead and 3048 02:30:48,450 --> 02:30:45,790 it's being buried I would think that the 3049 02:30:52,620 --> 02:30:48,460 fingers wouldn't be curved and that it 3050 02:30:55,620 --> 02:30:52,630 feels like this body to me sat down and 3051 02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:55,630 died like it just curled its arms around 3052 02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,090 itself and 3053 02:31:02,060 --> 02:30:59,520 you know and curled its fingers or and 3054 02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:02,070 sat down and never liked it and just 3055 02:31:10,130 --> 02:31:06,330 just died that that's me I look that's 3056 02:31:14,090 --> 02:31:10,140 just my observation but I do believe 3057 02:31:19,130 --> 02:31:14,100 that the mummy is is as real I want it 3058 02:31:21,849 --> 02:31:19,140 to be an unmolested untouched nothing 3059 02:31:26,090 --> 02:31:21,859 with this I just want it to be exactly 3060 02:31:28,070 --> 02:31:26,100 what it needs to be at this point and so 3061 02:31:31,849 --> 02:31:28,080 with all of the testing and all of the 3062 02:31:36,260 --> 02:31:31,859 the Cascades and the data of certainly 3063 02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:36,270 the dating and the DNA stuff I can't 3064 02:31:43,849 --> 02:31:39,090 wait for that to come in but as it 3065 02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:43,859 stands right now I think that it it 3066 02:31:51,410 --> 02:31:47,930 appears to be what it is which is a 3067 02:31:54,530 --> 02:31:51,420 skeleton a mummy of an actual living 3068 02:31:57,860 --> 02:31:54,540 being that is 1,800 years old when we 3069 02:32:01,400 --> 02:31:57,870 take it to the next step which is the 3070 02:32:02,060 --> 02:32:01,410 big one which is three fingers three 3071 02:32:05,719 --> 02:32:02,070 toes 3072 02:32:08,200 --> 02:32:05,729 multiple knuckles joints the way that 3073 02:32:10,790 --> 02:32:08,210 the risk the hands the way that they are 3074 02:32:14,599 --> 02:32:10,800 the way that they have been formed in 3075 02:32:16,960 --> 02:32:14,609 the feet of are fascinating to me they 3076 02:32:20,090 --> 02:32:16,970 look the same Jay brought up the same 3077 02:32:22,400 --> 02:32:20,100 observations that I have which are the 3078 02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:22,410 hands and feet looks like they're almost 3079 02:32:31,310 --> 02:32:27,450 the same not the same identical but but 3080 02:32:34,490 --> 02:32:31,320 the same our toes and our fingers on our 3081 02:32:36,860 --> 02:32:34,500 bodies are not the same but here those 3082 02:32:40,130 --> 02:32:36,870 toes and the fingers appear to be the 3083 02:32:43,250 --> 02:32:40,140 same and that is that's that's a whole 3084 02:32:46,190 --> 02:32:43,260 nother concept here when you let your 3085 02:32:47,960 --> 02:32:46,200 imagination wander like Jay you know you 3086 02:32:51,260 --> 02:32:47,970 know climbing around on a cliff face or 3087 02:32:52,820 --> 02:32:51,270 through a tree or whatever that the 3088 02:32:55,730 --> 02:32:52,830 hands and feet here could be used for 3089 02:32:57,200 --> 02:32:55,740 the same things you know not imagine if 3090 02:32:59,870 --> 02:32:57,210 you're a guitar player and that's a 3091 02:33:01,370 --> 02:32:59,880 great reference from Jay which is if 3092 02:33:03,110 --> 02:33:01,380 your guitar player with those fingers 3093 02:33:04,610 --> 02:33:03,120 imagine what you could do well you know 3094 02:33:07,460 --> 02:33:04,620 what if you're that creature you could 3095 02:33:10,251 --> 02:33:07,470 play two guitars at the same time right 3096 02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:10,261 play two pianos at the same time 3097 02:33:14,990 --> 02:33:12,450 with those fingers imagine that with 3098 02:33:18,650 --> 02:33:15,000 that dexterity which you could actually 3099 02:33:22,161 --> 02:33:18,660 do so that that's my position here we 3100 02:33:24,770 --> 02:33:22,171 need to just let this play out for those 3101 02:33:27,740 --> 02:33:24,780 of you out there that are looking at 3102 02:33:31,310 --> 02:33:27,750 this video and immediately jumping to 3103 02:33:34,791 --> 02:33:31,320 this is alien this is fantastic this is 3104 02:33:36,650 --> 02:33:34,801 this is great let's not go there but on 3105 02:33:39,320 --> 02:33:36,660 the same extreme on the other side that 3106 02:33:42,020 --> 02:33:39,330 this is a hoax and this is fake we can't 3107 02:33:45,411 --> 02:33:42,030 extrapolate those kind of conclusions at 3108 02:33:47,060 --> 02:33:45,421 this point we just cannot we need to let 3109 02:33:50,150 --> 02:33:47,070 this play out I think it's going to be 3110 02:33:52,791 --> 02:33:50,160 fascinating and a fun ride for us over 3111 02:33:54,501 --> 02:33:52,801 the next year or so he is saying that 3112 02:33:57,621 --> 02:33:54,511 they have to reconstruct the DNA so 3113 02:34:00,110 --> 02:33:57,631 let's visit that he said they have to 3114 02:34:01,820 --> 02:34:00,120 reconstruct the DNA and we're expecting 3115 02:34:04,400 --> 02:34:01,830 results between three and six months 3116 02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:04,410 okay all right I can imagine it's a very 3117 02:34:09,530 --> 02:34:07,530 complex process and testing to get those 3118 02:34:12,411 --> 02:34:09,540 results out and to have a confident 3119 02:34:16,041 --> 02:34:12,421 result from that they are testing the 3120 02:34:19,541 --> 02:34:16,051 DNA at five separate laboratories right 3121 02:34:22,220 --> 02:34:19,551 now five and we'll get those results 3122 02:34:24,770 --> 02:34:22,230 between three and six months out we have 3123 02:34:26,900 --> 02:34:24,780 to wait in the meantime the rest of the 3124 02:34:30,201 --> 02:34:26,910 data that they have certainly the carbon 3125 02:34:32,780 --> 02:34:30,211 dating and and retesting the tissue 3126 02:34:36,860 --> 02:34:32,790 samples not only DNA but what is the 3127 02:34:39,350 --> 02:34:36,870 tissue and and what is the makeup all of 3128 02:34:42,621 --> 02:34:39,360 that will be coming in and we'll look at 3129 02:34:45,591 --> 02:34:42,631 those results the next thing I want to 3130 02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:45,601 know what this white powder is and I'm 3131 02:34:49,490 --> 02:34:47,250 serious about the tasting did anybody 3132 02:34:51,801 --> 02:34:49,500 taste it what does it smell like you 3133 02:34:54,020 --> 02:34:51,811 know what is this white powder the 3134 02:34:56,421 --> 02:34:54,030 monatomic gold aspect of it wouldn't 3135 02:34:59,150 --> 02:34:56,431 that be fascinating if that's what they 3136 02:35:02,140 --> 02:34:59,160 were doing 1,800 years ago that's that's 3137 02:35:06,081 --> 02:35:02,150 pretty cool is it just a salt based of 3138 02:35:08,810 --> 02:35:06,091 powder possible I would think that that 3139 02:35:12,801 --> 02:35:08,820 is highly likely there is another 3140 02:35:19,190 --> 02:35:12,811 comment that was made in the video I 3141 02:35:21,411 --> 02:35:19,200 think it's in part two about the the 3142 02:35:23,380 --> 02:35:21,421 smell of herbs when they liquefied I 3143 02:35:24,939 --> 02:35:23,390 think that's what they said the 3144 02:35:27,729 --> 02:35:24,949 hoping here but I think they added it to 3145 02:35:32,769 --> 02:35:27,739 whatever I added it to water but it had 3146 02:35:35,290 --> 02:35:32,779 an herbal smell to it that that was part 3147 02:35:38,410 --> 02:35:35,300 of the mummification process and that 3148 02:35:43,689 --> 02:35:38,420 there's a possibility now that it was 3149 02:35:46,059 --> 02:35:43,699 the same sort of herbal compound that 3150 02:35:48,429 --> 02:35:46,069 the Egyptians used now I'm not 3151 02:35:50,050 --> 02:35:48,439 suggesting in Egyptian connection here 3152 02:35:56,290 --> 02:35:50,060 but that would be interesting if that 3153 02:35:59,290 --> 02:35:56,300 played out but also the the process of 3154 02:36:01,330 --> 02:35:59,300 mummification and determining what herbs 3155 02:36:03,550 --> 02:36:01,340 would be combined to get the 3156 02:36:09,939 --> 02:36:03,560 mummification process perfect and to 3157 02:36:12,700 --> 02:36:09,949 perfect it that the same determinations 3158 02:36:14,469 --> 02:36:12,710 would would have resulted in in multiple 3159 02:36:18,219 --> 02:36:14,479 different cultures it's just the way 3160 02:36:19,870 --> 02:36:18,229 that it goes Square windows are all over 3161 02:36:21,729 --> 02:36:19,880 the world that's just a part of our 3162 02:36:25,870 --> 02:36:21,739 process you know square with steps 3163 02:36:28,389 --> 02:36:25,880 stairs you know it's just part of of the 3164 02:36:31,899 --> 02:36:28,399 learning and knowledge and technology as 3165 02:36:34,389 --> 02:36:31,909 we move along if if there is a direct 3166 02:36:36,610 --> 02:36:34,399 Egyptian connection here that's all 3167 02:36:39,490 --> 02:36:36,620 speculation but it certainly would be 3168 02:36:43,719 --> 02:36:39,500 fascinating I don't think there have 3169 02:36:46,300 --> 02:36:43,729 been just just so you understand there 3170 02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:46,310 have been a few different things and 3171 02:36:50,380 --> 02:36:48,170 like when you look at Machu Picchu or 3172 02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:50,390 you look at Cusco and you look at some 3173 02:36:58,149 --> 02:36:53,810 of the the walls and the megalithic 3174 02:37:03,070 --> 02:36:58,159 structures that are there the random cut 3175 02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:03,080 of seemingly random cuts of different 3176 02:37:07,599 --> 02:37:04,880 stones that are put together there is a 3177 02:37:09,969 --> 02:37:07,609 similar process also that can be found 3178 02:37:14,500 --> 02:37:09,979 throughout Egypt too as well now I don't 3179 02:37:17,860 --> 02:37:14,510 know if the Incas or if South American 3180 02:37:19,689 --> 02:37:17,870 cultures knew anything about Egypt and 3181 02:37:22,660 --> 02:37:19,699 what they were doing 3,000 years ago 3182 02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:22,670 right Machu Picchu being built you know 3183 02:37:29,979 --> 02:37:26,330 first of first millennia so I don't know 3184 02:37:32,530 --> 02:37:29,989 ad you know and that would be surprising 3185 02:37:35,590 --> 02:37:32,540 if the Incas had any knowledge of what 3186 02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:35,600 the Egyptians were doing there but there 3187 02:37:39,590 --> 02:37:36,720 is 3188 02:37:43,490 --> 02:37:39,600 a very similar design now does that come 3189 02:37:46,940 --> 02:37:43,500 out of necessity right were these these 3190 02:37:49,940 --> 02:37:46,950 random rocks and and megaliths were they 3191 02:37:53,420 --> 02:37:49,950 cut because they didn't want to waste 3192 02:37:54,740 --> 02:37:53,430 rocks right so they just cut with what 3193 02:37:56,870 --> 02:37:54,750 was coming out of the quarry and they 3194 02:37:59,300 --> 02:37:56,880 made everything fit in these in these 3195 02:38:01,429 --> 02:37:59,310 walls I don't think so and you have to 3196 02:38:03,050 --> 02:38:01,439 go back to Egypt and look at the same 3197 02:38:06,139 --> 02:38:03,060 thing that was going on there where they 3198 02:38:08,599 --> 02:38:06,149 have these random cuts in the walls with 3199 02:38:11,769 --> 02:38:08,609 these rocks why would they do it that 3200 02:38:14,389 --> 02:38:11,779 way I don't know but the same 3201 02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:14,399 development through two separate 3202 02:38:20,690 --> 02:38:17,850 cultures happened in a very parallel 3203 02:38:22,400 --> 02:38:20,700 sense offset by a thousand or two 3204 02:38:27,019 --> 02:38:22,410 thousand or three thousand years for 3205 02:38:29,210 --> 02:38:27,029 sure but the same processes were done 3206 02:38:30,260 --> 02:38:29,220 and that's a fascinating way to look at 3207 02:38:32,809 --> 02:38:30,270 things so when you look at the 3208 02:38:36,260 --> 02:38:32,819 mummification process is that also 3209 02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:36,270 possible that they were trying to figure 3210 02:38:42,830 --> 02:38:39,930 out the best way to to preserve these 3211 02:38:45,500 --> 02:38:42,840 bodies and that ultimately the same 3212 02:38:47,960 --> 02:38:45,510 processes were were developed through 3213 02:38:50,269 --> 02:38:47,970 two different cultures thousands of 3214 02:38:52,990 --> 02:38:50,279 miles and thousands of years apart but 3215 02:38:55,670 --> 02:38:53,000 they came to the same conclusions very 3216 02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:55,680 fascinating aspect of this when it comes 3217 02:39:01,420 --> 02:38:58,319 to the mummification process now no 3218 02:39:05,059 --> 02:39:01,430 linens were involved here I don't think 3219 02:39:06,769 --> 02:39:05,069 the bodies weren't wrapped also over in 3220 02:39:08,330 --> 02:39:06,779 Egypt you have to remember and I talked 3221 02:39:13,460 --> 02:39:08,340 about this on the show I think on 3222 02:39:15,769 --> 02:39:13,470 Thursday that in Egypt because of the 3223 02:39:18,500 --> 02:39:15,779 the environment that they were and they 3224 02:39:21,290 --> 02:39:18,510 had to remove the organs they were 3225 02:39:22,370 --> 02:39:21,300 removed cleaned preserved and then put 3226 02:39:24,500 --> 02:39:22,380 back into jars 3227 02:39:27,290 --> 02:39:24,510 okay the bodies were stuffed and then 3228 02:39:29,870 --> 02:39:27,300 reassembled that's how they did it over 3229 02:39:34,340 --> 02:39:29,880 there that is not the case here with 3230 02:39:37,460 --> 02:39:34,350 this mummy the organs are intact intact 3231 02:39:40,760 --> 02:39:37,470 now the other aspect of this that 3232 02:39:41,210 --> 02:39:40,770 everybody is talking about and asking me 3233 02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:41,220 about 3234 02:39:46,580 --> 02:39:43,680 I do not know this has to play out but 3235 02:39:50,029 --> 02:39:46,590 that is the fact that it appears we have 3236 02:39:52,399 --> 02:39:50,039 a reptilian species here 3237 02:39:56,059 --> 02:39:52,409 with eggs with the three fingers three 3238 02:39:59,239 --> 02:39:56,069 toes but apparently reptilian remember 3239 02:40:03,649 --> 02:39:59,249 the single forearm in the single bone in 3240 02:40:06,409 --> 02:40:03,659 the forearm but also found is Maria 3241 02:40:08,299 --> 02:40:06,419 she's got two bones and she's humanoid 3242 02:40:11,209 --> 02:40:08,309 but she's got three fingers and three 3243 02:40:13,639 --> 02:40:11,219 toes the same thing here now this is 3244 02:40:16,849 --> 02:40:13,649 where things start to get out there and 3245 02:40:19,989 --> 02:40:16,859 get get a little bit funky we've had the 3246 02:40:23,209 --> 02:40:19,999 talk about reptilians and reptilian et's 3247 02:40:25,999 --> 02:40:23,219 on this planet forever okay that's 3248 02:40:29,089 --> 02:40:26,009 that's when I talk about it's been 3249 02:40:33,319 --> 02:40:29,099 talked about for about 2,000 years so we 3250 02:40:36,889 --> 02:40:33,329 have that is has there been some cross 3251 02:40:41,299 --> 02:40:36,899 breeding some type of DNA manipulation 3252 02:40:44,079 --> 02:40:41,309 on both sides who is the intelligent 3253 02:40:46,069 --> 02:40:44,089 creature here is it the the smaller ones 3254 02:40:48,619 --> 02:40:46,079 were they the ones that were 3255 02:40:51,369 --> 02:40:48,629 manipulating the human DNA to get to the 3256 02:40:56,269 --> 02:40:51,379 three fingers three toes like them I 3257 02:40:58,879 --> 02:40:56,279 don't very very strange questions 3258 02:41:00,979 --> 02:40:58,889 now again this is all going off into 3259 02:41:05,569 --> 02:41:00,989 speculation and like I was talking to 3260 02:41:07,149 --> 02:41:05,579 Jay right now about this is where it's a 3261 02:41:10,010 --> 02:41:07,159 leap of faith that's getting too 3262 02:41:12,559 --> 02:41:10,020 fantastical here but they were found 3263 02:41:16,579 --> 02:41:12,569 together and they have similar - even 3264 02:41:19,459 --> 02:41:16,589 though they are different the the the 3265 02:41:21,739 --> 02:41:19,469 two bones of the four arms of with the 3266 02:41:24,229 --> 02:41:21,749 humanoid with Maria is one thing but her 3267 02:41:26,869 --> 02:41:24,239 arms are really long and when you look 3268 02:41:29,510 --> 02:41:26,879 at the animation when they have the body 3269 02:41:32,269 --> 02:41:29,520 stand up in the in the animation you can 3270 02:41:35,749 --> 02:41:32,279 clearly see that the arms and the legs 3271 02:41:38,599 --> 02:41:35,759 are nearly the same so is there the 3272 02:41:41,899 --> 02:41:38,609 possibility of that right and then you 3273 02:41:45,049 --> 02:41:41,909 go and you look at the smaller reptilian 3274 02:41:48,229 --> 02:41:45,059 bodies that are there there is that 3275 02:41:51,249 --> 02:41:48,239 aspect except there's the single bone in 3276 02:41:56,539 --> 02:41:51,259 the forearm but it clearly looks like 3277 02:41:58,519 --> 02:41:56,549 it's not biped or maybe semi biped right 3278 02:42:00,739 --> 02:41:58,529 they walk on all fours when they wanted 3279 02:42:03,260 --> 02:42:00,749 to but you have the three fingers and 3280 02:42:03,980 --> 02:42:03,270 three toes aspect of it this is getting 3281 02:42:07,761 --> 02:42:03,990 too 3282 02:42:11,091 --> 02:42:07,771 to fantastical now we have the aspect of 3283 02:42:14,961 --> 02:42:11,101 these three eggs what how is this going 3284 02:42:20,270 --> 02:42:14,971 to play out you know and so putting 3285 02:42:23,511 --> 02:42:20,280 together a hoax like this I'm not sure 3286 02:42:25,970 --> 02:42:23,521 if Gaea wasn't involved this is where I 3287 02:42:29,390 --> 02:42:25,980 have to back up and look at this say 3288 02:42:34,310 --> 02:42:29,400 Gaea wasn't involved and this was just 3289 02:42:38,301 --> 02:42:34,320 staying down in Peru why or how why 3290 02:42:40,761 --> 02:42:38,311 would you do this one and two how would 3291 02:42:43,220 --> 02:42:40,771 you put this thing together how would 3292 02:42:47,511 --> 02:42:43,230 you put this ma'am I mean multiple 3293 02:42:50,270 --> 02:42:47,521 bodies a humanoid reptilian the fingers 3294 02:42:52,370 --> 02:42:50,280 of the the bones the skeletons how would 3295 02:42:56,080 --> 02:42:52,380 you possibly put all of this together 3296 02:42:59,360 --> 02:42:56,090 and why you're not going to sell tickets 3297 02:43:02,930 --> 02:42:59,370 enough I mean I don't know I mean for 3298 02:43:05,690 --> 02:43:02,940 some roadside freak show why would you 3299 02:43:08,450 --> 02:43:05,700 put all of this together and the other 3300 02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:08,460 part of this we are talking about Peru 3301 02:43:16,820 --> 02:43:11,760 we're talking about Nazca cusco this is 3302 02:43:18,230 --> 02:43:16,830 not a rich area there's not resources 3303 02:43:20,390 --> 02:43:18,240 there's not a ton of money 3304 02:43:22,490 --> 02:43:20,400 there isn't anything there isn't that 3305 02:43:25,040 --> 02:43:22,500 kind of tourism to go through there so 3306 02:43:27,740 --> 02:43:25,050 to what ends would you do all of this 3307 02:43:29,000 --> 02:43:27,750 although it's possible but why would you 3308 02:43:30,711 --> 02:43:29,010 do it and where would you get the money 3309 02:43:32,870 --> 02:43:30,721 and how would you how would you pull 3310 02:43:37,160 --> 02:43:32,880 this off that's that's what's 3311 02:43:39,410 --> 02:43:37,170 fascinating to me so for me I've got to 3312 02:43:41,000 --> 02:43:39,420 go with the way that this is playing out 3313 02:43:43,100 --> 02:43:41,010 now that the bodies were found together 3314 02:43:45,320 --> 02:43:43,110 they were found underground we're going 3315 02:43:48,500 --> 02:43:45,330 to get more of that information here 3316 02:43:52,370 --> 02:43:48,510 soon I'm excited about that but that the 3317 02:43:54,921 --> 02:43:52,380 the bodies themselves are real that's it 3318 02:43:59,060 --> 02:43:54,931 is there an alien connection I don't 3319 02:44:02,750 --> 02:43:59,070 know I just don't know that none of us 3320 02:44:07,060 --> 02:44:02,760 do and that's where I think we just need 3321 02:44:10,881 --> 02:44:07,070 to just ride this out and enjoy it I the 3322 02:44:14,780 --> 02:44:10,891 the best part for me with all of this is 3323 02:44:17,301 --> 02:44:14,790 we have something new here we have 3324 02:44:17,780 --> 02:44:17,311 something new here we can discuss we can 3325 02:44:19,430 --> 02:44:17,790 analyze 3326 02:44:21,650 --> 02:44:19,440 as we can look at the data we can debate 3327 02:44:24,620 --> 02:44:21,660 and and talk about this 3328 02:44:27,200 --> 02:44:24,630 it is something who expected this a 3329 02:44:31,130 --> 02:44:27,210 month ago that today on this show we 3330 02:44:35,290 --> 02:44:31,140 would be talking about this right the 3331 02:44:37,490 --> 02:44:35,300 the exoplanets the fast radio bursts 3332 02:44:38,930 --> 02:44:37,500 some of this fascinating stuff that is 3333 02:44:40,580 --> 02:44:38,940 coming out of Silicon Valley with 3334 02:44:42,500 --> 02:44:40,590 quantum theory and quantum mechanics of 3335 02:44:45,350 --> 02:44:42,510 parallel worlds and the Mandela affected 3336 02:44:47,780 --> 02:44:45,360 and CERN all of these things have been 3337 02:44:51,080 --> 02:44:47,790 happening over the last year planet at 3338 02:44:54,290 --> 02:44:51,090 Planet axis surfaced against surface two 3339 02:44:56,930 --> 02:44:54,300 years ago surfaced a year ago right and 3340 02:45:01,250 --> 02:44:56,940 and here we are today talking about that 3341 02:45:04,540 --> 02:45:01,260 again and and that's where the focus has 3342 02:45:07,550 --> 02:45:04,550 been and then boom this happens very 3343 02:45:09,860 --> 02:45:07,560 interesting times I don't know how this 3344 02:45:12,140 --> 02:45:09,870 is going to play out I really really 3345 02:45:14,990 --> 02:45:12,150 really don't I didn't open up the phone 3346 02:45:16,940 --> 02:45:15,000 lines I apologize for that 3347 02:45:18,800 --> 02:45:16,950 I've got time for maybe one phone call 3348 02:45:21,290 --> 02:45:18,810 three two three eight two five five zero 3349 02:45:23,720 --> 02:45:21,300 four five three two three two seven five 3350 02:45:26,060 --> 02:45:23,730 nine six nine five because I've got a 3351 02:45:28,040 --> 02:45:26,070 couple of things here in the news I want 3352 02:45:31,660 --> 02:45:28,050 to get covered before I get out of here 3353 02:45:35,120 --> 02:45:31,670 tonight government websites in Ohio 3354 02:45:37,640 --> 02:45:35,130 Maryland and New York have been hacked 3355 02:45:41,810 --> 02:45:37,650 with what appears to be pro isis 3356 02:45:45,200 --> 02:45:41,820 propaganda yeah Oh before I continue 3357 02:45:47,050 --> 02:45:45,210 it looks like operation Mosul is about 3358 02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:47,060 to end in the next two to three days 3359 02:45:54,020 --> 02:45:50,130 they've run Isis out of Mosul they're 3360 02:45:57,200 --> 02:45:54,030 expecting that there's between 150 and 3361 02:46:00,560 --> 02:45:57,210 200 Isis members that are holed up in 3362 02:46:04,280 --> 02:46:00,570 old in the old city covering about a 1 3363 02:46:07,700 --> 02:46:04,290 square kilometer area and they expect 3364 02:46:10,070 --> 02:46:07,710 that all to be over within the next two 3365 02:46:10,790 --> 02:46:10,080 to three days that's pretty pretty 3366 02:46:14,240 --> 02:46:10,800 amazing 3367 02:46:18,560 --> 02:46:14,250 anyway back to this the hacked websites 3368 02:46:21,620 --> 02:46:18,570 yesterday visitors to Governor Ohio dot 3369 02:46:27,080 --> 02:46:21,630 gov were greeted with a black background 3370 02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:27,090 and the Arabic symbol of the Islamic 3371 02:46:29,850 --> 02:46:28,110 called a prayer 3372 02:46:32,910 --> 02:46:29,860 played in the background 3373 02:46:35,671 --> 02:46:32,920 and it said you will be held accountable 3374 02:46:38,610 --> 02:46:35,681 Trump and the text on the landing page 3375 02:46:40,680 --> 02:46:38,620 and it said you and all your people for 3376 02:46:42,961 --> 02:46:40,690 every drop of blood flowing in Muslim 3377 02:46:46,051 --> 02:46:42,971 countries and then down at the bottom it 3378 02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:46,061 said I love Islamic state a group 3379 02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:50,110 calling itself team system DZ apparently 3380 02:46:54,570 --> 02:46:52,330 hacked to Governor John Kasich official 3381 02:46:57,150 --> 02:46:54,580 site along with the sites of first lady 3382 02:46:59,671 --> 02:46:57,160 Karen Kasich and the Ohio Department of 3383 02:47:01,860 --> 02:46:59,681 Rehabilitation and Corrections those 3384 02:47:04,740 --> 02:47:01,870 pages displayed the same message that 3385 02:47:06,961 --> 02:47:04,750 Kasich stood now in addition to the pro 3386 02:47:12,511 --> 02:47:06,971 Isis language the line appeared on each 3387 02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:12,521 pay that said hacked by team system DZ 3388 02:47:20,421 --> 02:47:14,410 let's go to the phones hi your life on 3389 02:47:26,041 --> 02:47:20,431 paid to block who's calling you're live 3390 02:47:28,350 --> 02:47:26,051 Jimmy yes oh yeah I'm good who's calling 3391 02:47:30,990 --> 02:47:28,360 good it's Charles I'm calling from 3392 02:47:33,810 --> 02:47:31,000 Calgary hey Charles from Calgary how you 3393 02:47:36,631 --> 02:47:33,820 doing man good good hey you know I think 3394 02:47:38,970 --> 02:47:36,641 everybody's wrapped up on this alien 3395 02:47:41,610 --> 02:47:38,980 mummy hopefully that's what it is but 3396 02:47:42,841 --> 02:47:41,620 I'm at a point that I'm concerned that 3397 02:47:44,461 --> 02:47:42,851 the government's going to get their 3398 02:47:48,301 --> 02:47:44,471 hands on the story or I'm sure they 3399 02:47:50,430 --> 02:47:48,311 already do and death and you know take 3400 02:47:51,961 --> 02:47:50,440 it away from all of us and then 3401 02:47:53,700 --> 02:47:51,971 everybody's going to have to say was a 3402 02:47:54,780 --> 02:47:53,710 hoax and it wasn't real because they're 3403 02:47:55,770 --> 02:47:54,790 going to bury the evidence somewhere 3404 02:47:58,230 --> 02:47:55,780 yeah 3405 02:48:00,541 --> 02:47:58,240 well that's always a possibility I was 3406 02:48:02,700 --> 02:48:00,551 talking to Jay about that this is the 3407 02:48:07,560 --> 02:48:02,710 other thing Charles that I find strange 3408 02:48:10,291 --> 02:48:07,570 it's the silence right it's it or 3409 02:48:13,770 --> 02:48:10,301 talking I'm talking about Washington or 3410 02:48:15,780 --> 02:48:13,780 the Smithsonian or you know some 3411 02:48:18,301 --> 02:48:15,790 official response saying you know this 3412 02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:18,311 is this is funny it's a hoax hahaha 3413 02:48:23,751 --> 02:48:21,130 right nothing there's been deal nothing 3414 02:48:27,751 --> 02:48:23,761 it's been total total total silence and 3415 02:48:30,060 --> 02:48:27,761 I think that speaks volumes now I'm very 3416 02:48:33,810 --> 02:48:30,070 paranoid about this body disappearing 3417 02:48:35,581 --> 02:48:33,820 this is Peru and you know we're not 3418 02:48:37,440 --> 02:48:35,591 talking about the sophistication of 3419 02:48:40,381 --> 02:48:37,450 infrastructure that we have up here with 3420 02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:40,391 with police departments and everything 3421 02:48:47,070 --> 02:48:43,210 else they don't have that down there 3422 02:48:48,809 --> 02:48:47,080 and the possibility of any rogue element 3423 02:48:52,010 --> 02:48:48,819 showing up either from the government 3424 02:48:55,530 --> 02:48:52,020 from you know how about you know some 3425 02:48:57,689 --> 02:48:55,540 Delta Team six or something from from 3426 02:48:59,490 --> 02:48:57,699 our military showing up and stealing 3427 02:49:01,830 --> 02:48:59,500 them we you know that's what I'm 3428 02:49:04,410 --> 02:49:01,840 paranoid about is is this body just out 3429 02:49:07,380 --> 02:49:04,420 now disappearing I'm glad that they've 3430 02:49:12,300 --> 02:49:07,390 gotten enough tissue samples and the cat 3431 02:49:14,219 --> 02:49:12,310 scans were done and the the x-rays were 3432 02:49:15,900 --> 02:49:14,229 all done so we have all of that and it 3433 02:49:18,210 --> 02:49:15,910 was caught on video but yeah I'm 3434 02:49:21,269 --> 02:49:18,220 paranoid about that I'm totally paranoid 3435 02:49:25,260 --> 02:49:21,279 about that yeah and do we know where 3436 02:49:28,139 --> 02:49:25,270 them worried it yep yep yep yep yep the 3437 02:49:30,570 --> 02:49:28,149 answer is yes they know where it is I 3438 02:49:33,290 --> 02:49:30,580 think that and I think that the Peruvian 3439 02:49:36,960 --> 02:49:33,300 government knows where it is for sure 3440 02:49:41,910 --> 02:49:36,970 they know who found it all of that is is 3441 02:49:43,500 --> 02:49:41,920 clear so yes now the exact location is 3442 02:49:47,400 --> 02:49:43,510 that they know of course that we're not 3443 02:49:50,370 --> 02:49:47,410 going to disclose that that that's going 3444 02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:50,380 into a danger zone but but yes they know 3445 02:49:55,170 --> 02:49:52,960 where it is and I think the government 3446 02:49:58,019 --> 02:49:55,180 of the government the police department 3447 02:50:01,530 --> 02:49:58,029 in Cusco and and Nazca yes they know 3448 02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:01,540 exactly where the body is for sure no he 3449 02:50:04,679 --> 02:50:02,800 wouldn't disclose them when you asked 3450 02:50:08,849 --> 02:50:04,689 him where he was he said it was on the 3451 02:50:10,889 --> 02:50:08,859 ground are you thinking maybe there's 3452 02:50:20,849 --> 02:50:10,899 more they're possibly more down there 3453 02:50:22,500 --> 02:50:20,859 you know the I the reason why and I look 3454 02:50:26,400 --> 02:50:22,510 I tried to get Jay to talk about this 3455 02:50:29,519 --> 02:50:26,410 but I think that the reason why that 3456 02:50:31,500 --> 02:50:29,529 they haven't revealed more details about 3457 02:50:33,059 --> 02:50:31,510 that is because they don't want people 3458 02:50:37,200 --> 02:50:33,069 to speculate they don't want people to 3459 02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:37,210 create any any strange rumors or cause 3460 02:50:46,920 --> 02:50:43,090 any store urban legend to develop out 3461 02:50:50,130 --> 02:50:46,930 out of it so when they are ready to 3462 02:50:51,780 --> 02:50:50,140 discuss all of this also they don't want 3463 02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:51,790 people going down there and molesting 3464 02:50:56,080 --> 02:50:54,250 this area too as well I don't think they 3465 02:50:59,280 --> 02:50:56,090 want to give too much 3466 02:51:02,590 --> 02:50:59,290 of that away but when they are ready to 3467 02:51:06,340 --> 02:51:02,600 to disclose it in such a way that it is 3468 02:51:09,550 --> 02:51:06,350 easy to digest and understand and 3469 02:51:11,260 --> 02:51:09,560 without speculation then then it will be 3470 02:51:14,170 --> 02:51:11,270 revealed but of course they know all of 3471 02:51:16,179 --> 02:51:14,180 these things at once it's gonna be an 3472 02:51:18,820 --> 02:51:16,189 exciting few months I know right 3473 02:51:20,889 --> 02:51:18,830 I I'm just loving every minute of it 3474 02:51:22,630 --> 02:51:20,899 Charles thank you for the phone call my 3475 02:51:25,300 --> 02:51:22,640 friend and be safe up there you know we 3476 02:51:27,340 --> 02:51:25,310 love the great white north take care 3477 02:51:30,429 --> 02:51:27,350 good yeah Thank You Charles great phone 3478 02:51:33,520 --> 02:51:30,439 call let's stay on the phones hi you're 3479 02:51:35,260 --> 02:51:33,530 live on fade to black who's calling hey 3480 02:51:37,990 --> 02:51:35,270 mister cherish is Jason has a call but 3481 02:51:40,750 --> 02:51:38,000 hey Jason how you doing I'm doing well 3482 02:51:42,490 --> 02:51:40,760 um man great chair tonight mr. white if 3483 02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:42,500 that was that was some fantastic stuff 3484 02:51:48,719 --> 02:51:44,210 there buddy I just wanted to call and 3485 02:51:51,580 --> 02:51:48,729 thank you for that that was so great um 3486 02:51:53,830 --> 02:51:51,590 on this mummy seats the one thing that 3487 02:51:57,490 --> 02:51:53,840 pops into my mind that I would love to 3488 02:52:02,620 --> 02:51:57,500 see this proof of some sort of reptilian 3489 02:52:05,950 --> 02:52:02,630 hominid some sort of cross TV you know 3490 02:52:08,170 --> 02:52:05,960 some sort of link in evolution that we 3491 02:52:09,580 --> 02:52:08,180 don't know anything about if you know 3492 02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:09,590 just something that blows us out of the 3493 02:52:18,670 --> 02:52:12,410 water I know if it goes if it starts to 3494 02:52:21,219 --> 02:52:18,680 go into the that zone uh buffa you know 3495 02:52:24,670 --> 02:52:21,229 if it's yes if it starts to go there we 3496 02:52:27,880 --> 02:52:24,680 need definitive definitive scientific 3497 02:52:30,340 --> 02:52:27,890 fact and proof because that is that's 3498 02:52:33,580 --> 02:52:30,350 that's the part that I think for all of 3499 02:52:35,050 --> 02:52:33,590 us we're getting into the fantastical 3500 02:52:39,280 --> 02:52:35,060 we're getting into we're getting into 3501 02:52:42,130 --> 02:52:39,290 crazy talk right okay that's this almost 3502 02:52:44,380 --> 02:52:42,140 it's almost harder to imagine than alien 3503 02:52:46,480 --> 02:52:44,390 yeah aliens at this point almost seems 3504 02:52:48,520 --> 02:52:46,490 like a cop-out 100 pieces come up with 3505 02:52:51,190 --> 02:52:48,530 something that's terrestrial that is a 3506 02:52:53,410 --> 02:52:51,200 completely different line of evolution 3507 02:52:55,210 --> 02:52:53,420 right I mean that's almost a bigger game 3508 02:52:56,290 --> 02:52:55,220 changer and and all we have an 3509 02:52:58,330 --> 02:52:56,300 extraterrestrial body 3510 02:53:00,700 --> 02:52:58,340 I told me everybody I totally agree with 3511 02:53:04,270 --> 02:53:00,710 you like I said that that's going into a 3512 02:53:08,830 --> 02:53:04,280 zone that I don't think we want to get 3513 02:53:10,131 --> 02:53:08,840 into just yet baby steps right because 3514 02:53:13,520 --> 02:53:10,141 you know what I mean that 3515 02:53:15,980 --> 02:53:13,530 Darris yes haha man that's that's where 3516 02:53:18,110 --> 02:53:15,990 I have to draw the line you know I do I 3517 02:53:21,041 --> 02:53:18,120 do I have to draw the line let's wait 3518 02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:21,051 till we get to that point and because if 3519 02:53:29,660 --> 02:53:26,000 we start to go there with the the 3520 02:53:30,831 --> 02:53:29,670 positive side of of things that you know 3521 02:53:32,961 --> 02:53:30,841 getting the rest of the world behind 3522 02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:32,971 this and understand it and to accept it 3523 02:53:39,381 --> 02:53:37,200 okay we're gaining traction there but if 3524 02:53:43,100 --> 02:53:39,391 we start going into reptilian 3525 02:53:44,030 --> 02:53:43,110 crossbreeding hominid humanoid reptilian 3526 02:53:46,070 --> 02:53:44,040 oide 3527 02:53:48,921 --> 02:53:46,080 then we're going to start to lose people 3528 02:53:51,610 --> 02:53:48,931 and yeah yeah we can't show yeah we 3529 02:53:55,251 --> 02:53:51,620 can't go there even for me man you know 3530 02:53:57,520 --> 02:53:55,261 what was that movie with Lou Louis 3531 02:54:01,610 --> 02:53:57,530 Gossett jr. 3532 02:54:04,421 --> 02:54:01,620 remember where he has the baby there on 3533 02:54:06,730 --> 02:54:04,431 the planet it's with what's-his-name 3534 02:54:10,490 --> 02:54:06,740 they crash ah 3535 02:54:12,320 --> 02:54:10,500 mmm I gotta be honest I don't I don't 3536 02:54:14,930 --> 02:54:12,330 know i can't i can't think over there 3537 02:54:19,600 --> 02:54:14,940 yeah well so Louis Gossett jr. is an 3538 02:54:22,791 --> 02:54:19,610 alien right and but he's a reptilian 3539 02:54:25,070 --> 02:54:22,801 humanoid alien right he learns how to 3540 02:54:27,320 --> 02:54:25,080 speaking well anyway they get stuck on 3541 02:54:28,520 --> 02:54:27,330 this planet and I can't bring can't 3542 02:54:31,070 --> 02:54:28,530 believe I can't remember the name I've 3543 02:54:33,261 --> 02:54:31,080 seen him 100 times but anyway he turns 3544 02:54:37,430 --> 02:54:33,271 out to be pregnant he's a male and he 3545 02:54:40,610 --> 02:54:37,440 has a baby and he has an egg and then he 3546 02:54:43,780 --> 02:54:40,620 has the baby alien right okay well 3547 02:54:48,280 --> 02:54:43,790 that's where we're going here so let's 3548 02:54:50,511 --> 02:54:48,290 slow down let's slow down that talk 3549 02:54:53,421 --> 02:54:50,521 because that's where the evidence is 3550 02:54:55,640 --> 02:54:53,431 going right now I get that let's not 3551 02:54:58,730 --> 02:54:55,650 let's not quite go there just yet but 3552 02:54:59,961 --> 02:54:58,740 what if right right and that I mean 3553 02:55:01,640 --> 02:54:59,971 that's the fun of the whole thing it's 3554 02:55:04,220 --> 02:55:01,650 you know it that my first thought was 3555 02:55:06,261 --> 02:55:04,230 alien l say wait a minute yeah if it's 3556 02:55:08,631 --> 02:55:06,271 something bigger but you know it's all 3557 02:55:10,910 --> 02:55:08,641 part of the fun of discovery absolutely 3558 02:55:11,240 --> 02:55:10,920 we have to survive this is so amazing 3559 02:55:12,890 --> 02:55:11,250 right now 3560 02:55:17,060 --> 02:55:12,900 have you seen all the videos have you 3561 02:55:19,190 --> 02:55:17,070 seen em all no I have not seen all the 3562 02:55:20,751 --> 02:55:19,200 videos at the only video I've seen at 3563 02:55:23,030 --> 02:55:20,761 this point is original and I saw a 3564 02:55:23,600 --> 02:55:23,040 little bit of an update but this is one 3565 02:55:25,730 --> 02:55:23,610 of the funny 3566 02:55:29,020 --> 02:55:25,740 is really pushing me to join Gaia which 3567 02:55:32,390 --> 02:55:29,030 I've been holding off on blood man I I 3568 02:55:34,520 --> 02:55:32,400 I'm just sort of waiting for the big 3569 02:55:36,440 --> 02:55:34,530 reveals and then stuff like this from 3570 02:55:38,810 --> 02:55:36,450 mr. Widener and what I can catch from 3571 02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:38,820 you guys so but I haven't seen all the 3572 02:55:43,881 --> 02:55:41,210 videos I saw some screen grabs of 3573 02:55:45,051 --> 02:55:43,891 something that may have been the the UFO 3574 02:55:47,841 --> 02:55:45,061 with the eggs but I'm waiting for 3575 02:55:49,551 --> 02:55:47,851 confirmation yeah Doug too much this 3576 02:55:51,680 --> 02:55:49,561 evening I want to get yeah you need to 3577 02:55:55,041 --> 02:55:51,690 go you yeah you may have to go do that 3578 02:55:58,100 --> 02:55:55,051 guy a thing man yeah because part two is 3579 02:56:01,011 --> 02:55:58,110 up noun is pretty cool so yeah yeah 3580 02:56:02,511 --> 02:56:01,021 that's that's pretty much gonna pretty 3581 02:56:04,700 --> 02:56:02,521 much how I ask you at this point I've 3582 02:56:06,440 --> 02:56:04,710 got it man all right chase west yeah 3583 02:56:08,001 --> 02:56:06,450 we'll see you tomorrow night on the show 3584 02:56:10,280 --> 02:56:08,011 we're going to be doing anonymous 3585 02:56:11,541 --> 02:56:10,290 tomorrow night so there you go man we'll 3586 02:56:14,331 --> 02:56:11,551 see you tomorrow night thank you so much 3587 02:56:14,841 --> 02:56:14,341 Jason fantastic thank you sir kill the 3588 02:56:16,430 --> 02:56:14,851 dork 3589 02:56:18,200 --> 02:56:16,440 thank you so much that's what I'm 3590 02:56:20,421 --> 02:56:18,210 talking about love the fate or not I 3591 02:56:23,780 --> 02:56:20,431 gotta get out of here this has been 3592 02:56:25,430 --> 02:56:23,790 another fade to black and I want to 3593 02:56:27,200 --> 02:56:25,440 remind everybody tomorrow night Gregg 3594 02:56:29,301 --> 02:56:27,210 Housh is going to be here we're going to 3595 02:56:33,131 --> 02:56:29,311 be discussing anonymous in their new 3596 02:56:37,461 --> 02:56:33,141 video that was put up talking about NASA 3597 02:56:39,261 --> 02:56:37,471 disclosure an alien contact so we're 3598 02:56:40,970 --> 02:56:39,271 going to be doing that tomorrow night 3599 02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:40,980 I want to thank Jay Widener great 3600 02:56:45,440 --> 02:56:43,530 conversation fascinating fade to black 3601 02:56:47,030 --> 02:56:45,450 the executive producers Rita Kumari on 3602 02:56:49,011 --> 02:56:47,040 Scholes produced by him Jay Paul Marty 3603 02:56:50,751 --> 02:56:49,021 Cove RLJ three Renee Jonas Thank You 3604 02:56:52,910 --> 02:56:50,761 Dennis thank you Bob 3605 02:56:56,060 --> 02:56:52,920 announcers our Steve harder gene Muto 3606 02:56:59,780 --> 02:56:56,070 mrdiko var Beatty by Dale webmaster is 3607 02:57:03,140 --> 02:56:59,790 Drew the geek intro space boys space boy 3608 02:57:11,620 --> 02:57:03,150 music calm music doug aldrich fade to 3609 02:57:13,940 --> 02:57:11,630 black is produced by kjsurya righted 3610 02:57:16,461 --> 02:57:13,950 2017 by fade to black in the game 3611 02:57:18,470 --> 02:57:16,471 changer network it cannot be rebroadcast 3612 02:57:20,180 --> 02:57:18,480 downloaded copied or use anywhere in the 3613 02:57:21,831 --> 02:57:20,190 known universe without permission from 3614 02:57:23,570 --> 02:57:21,841 fade to black or the game changer 3615 02:57:26,600 --> 02:57:23,580 network I'm your host Jimmy Church 3616 02:57:28,190 --> 02:57:26,610 follow me on Twitter @ JT radio follow 3617 02:57:31,211 --> 02:57:28,200 us on Instagram 3618 02:57:33,140 --> 02:57:31,221 fade to black radio until tomorrow night 3619 02:57:34,530 --> 02:57:33,150 everybody be saved 3620 02:57:40,810 --> 02:57:34,540 go back Lee